level 38 is not a high level.


I have had plenty of experience with this myself. Me and some friends will be waiting for an hour just for a rt 3v3 ror to start because our level and a picture next to our name are too intimidating.

So we usually either get total noobs who have no idea what they are doing or we wait a really long time.

Now, what happens when I switch over to a low level alt? Game starts in 3 minutes. People are stupid.


Another gripe I have. Achievements count for WAY too many points. Some people can get to about level 40 or 50 just by riding the achievement train. It takes almost no skill to actually complete any of these and they are just a waste of encrypted data. How many times have you looked at somebodies achievements to see how good of a player they are?

Edited 7/16/2015 17:52:38

they might be there to provide encouragement to newer players.

im not sure many people look at achievements over win rates :P

a lot of people don't realize that your level is a summary of sorts, of how many games you won, and to a degree, the variety. it is not the win ratio.

It generally gives an estimate of the players competency of playing the game. Doesn't really mean the higher level is more skilled or better...the lesser players could be more tactical and have better strategy thoughts than the higher level player...

Which sort of relates to a previous post in this thread...
I quote

"natto
Level 38
I get this. I have a pretty high level from playing lots of games with friends and not taking it seriously. A level 10 with half a brain could take me apart easily ".............

The main issue I see is that if someone wins 100 games in 200, they have X points. As well, if someone wins 100 games in 1000, they could still have X points (or even more with achievements).

Most people don't realize this and assume the former. You need to look at levels AND games played to get a true indication of skill, but most are lazy and don't.

Like fleecemaster said, it's the same reason people think age is related to wisdom. You get some credit for just sticking around. I started a few months ago and I work from home so I'm pretty much playing all day while I work. I'm probably 10 levels higher than I should be just from people being auto-booted from games.

Edited 7/19/2015 02:22:22

Even looking at the percentage of games won isn't a good indicator of skill. It takes some skill to get an 80-90% win rate on the open games, but it takes much more skill to put in a halfway decent showing on one of the ladders.

It also depends on where you are in the ladder. Getting an 80% win rate isn't too hard when you're in the bottom third of the ladder but it's presumably tougher when you face people in the top third, since in both cases you need to be underrated to have that high of a win rate, and you're much more likely to be underrated if you're near the bottom of the ladder. In any case, someone who wins 80% of their games in the top 100 would probably easily crush someone who wins 80% of their games in the bottom 100.

I tbink the reason lot of ppl tend to think so is caused from the fact that there are lot of games famous games where level is one of the most important thing: i could mention pokemon and league of legend
ofc in WL it does not matter at all

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Level says nothing about skills:

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=15029

Best example ;P

"It also depends on where you are in the ladder. Getting an 80% win rate isn't too hard when you're in the bottom third of the ladder but it's presumably tougher when you face people in the top third, since in both cases you need to be underrated to have that high of a win rate, and you're much more likely to be underrated if you're near the bottom of the ladder. In any case, someone who wins 80% of their games in the top 100 would probably easily crush someone who wins 80% of their games in the bottom 100."

There's a bit of faulty logic here. I get what you're saying, but if you win 80% you won't be in the bottom third unless you rigged it by losing a ton intentionally to cripple your elo rating. Winning raises rating, as raiting raises you play better opponents, thus anyone that wins 80% won't be in the bottom third. Everyone should win roughly 50% of their ladder games. Only exception are people at the top who can beat almost anyone over 50% of the time.