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Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-02 00:23:19


Phoenix
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good so basically every info is going out from the displayed info of the profiles.

Btw, you could make a site with multiple chat rooms(for all clans) and on it put who is online on warlight.
It would get a lot of traffic, maybe enough to get fizzer to actually implement it in the clan links.

Then the user will send the invite for those players himself.

Edited 9/2/2015 00:26:13
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-02 00:38:04


Benjamin628 
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^ great idea.
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-02 00:42:54


Rogue NK
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so when somebody logs on they are automatically added to a chat game with all the other clanmemebers that are signed in? That would be great!
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-02 01:31:07


Phoenix
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well u still need to get on the site to use the chat rooms, but on the site you would appear that you are online in warlight but not online in the chat room until you actually get on it.

So all you need is to bookmark the page that gives you the info of who is online next to warlight bookmark.
The chat rooms are an added feature of that site that can facilitate chat.
One could also put on it the ladder statistics and such there.

Once we had something like that when I owned a server of an fps game, so i know it is possible.

Edited 9/2/2015 01:34:56
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-02 02:17:29


l4v.r0v 
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Btw, you could make a site with multiple chat rooms(for all clans) and on it put who is online on warlight.
It would get a lot of traffic, maybe enough to get fizzer to actually implement it in the clan links.


Well so there's no way to check who's online on the entirety of Warlight because there's no central list of all Warlight players. We'd just be able to get people who are in a clan or have participated in one or more ladders.

so when somebody logs on they are automatically added to a chat game with all the other clanmemebers that are signed in? That would be great!


Yes. You can implement it for your clan (or any group of players) as long as you've got one person who's got a Warlight Membership. I think you should be able to do this with some modifications to the CLOT framework as well.

I'd be doing a lot of this myself if I had the time :(

EDIT: No rankings (or bug fixes) today. Sorry. I'm feeling really tired.

Edited 9/2/2015 03:06:22
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-02 10:09:30


little X
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Thank you for your detailed explanation :)
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-02 12:23:50


Madmen
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this is not an obligation, knyte. Just a nice thing for the community. so don't worry about adding more everyday! I'm grateful for any interesting contribution :)
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-02 19:05:57


Phoenix
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Yep do not worry that much, take your time, relax.

Btw
this is the kind of stats you should be using for player levels.

Use clan league

Example:
https://www.warlight.net/Forum/76938-clan-league-6-official-thread?Offset=260

"Apex: Timinator at 78.26% winrate over 4 tournaments. He won a 1v1 tournament, swept a 2v2 tournament, and tied for another 2v2 tournament.

GG: BraaK at 75.00% winrate over 2 tournaments. He won his 1v1 tournament and performed well in his 3v3 tournament.

WG: Summer at 66.67% winrate over 3 tournaments. She won one of her 3v3 tournaments.

French: Wazz at 72.22% winrate over 3 tournaments. He tied for the 3v3 tournament but lost the tie to AHoL. He performed excellently in all his tournaments.

AHoL: CONQUISTADORS at 61.11% winrate over 3 tournaments. He won a 3v3 tournament and the deciding match to stay in A.

WL'ers: Timon92 at 60.87% winrate over 4 tournaments. He performed well in all tournaments.

WM: Latnox at 41.67% winrate over 4 tournaments. Well, he didn't get booted from anything at least."

Edited 9/2/2015 19:06:55
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-02 19:30:11


l4v.r0v 
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So the issue is that the tournaments themselves exclude a lot of players and skew the rankings in favor of the players people already perceive to be the best.
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-03 07:23:06


Phoenix
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I do understand your valid point, but clan league is a start to see how accurately it is compared to ladders.
You can include many other tournaments like P/R league and many more.
You can also do clan only statistics to see how it works.

Then you can move forward on everybody and thus have 2 separate sections, one for clan members and one for all players altogether.

It will also give a valid reason to actually join those tournaments.

Most players don't join them because they get tired after a while of always the same thing.

But if they get an extra incentive I pretty sure they would prefer it than ladders.

Edited 9/3/2015 07:56:40
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-04 20:10:38


DarrenDieHard 
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The whole boot rate thing (going back a few days) should really be two numbers. Boot rate in real time games and boot rate in multi day games. They are two totally different beasts.

I am willing to be my multiday boot rate is about 0.5% or less whereas my RT boot rate is upwards of 7-8% due to playing a lot of 2 min duration tourneys and having players not accept surrenders...

Wonder if we could get that distinction made on our profile page in the future.
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-05 23:06:58


l4v.r0v 
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The whole boot rate thing (going back a few days) should really be two numbers. Boot rate in real time games and boot rate in multi day games. They are two totally different beasts.


I tested to see whether % real-time has an impact on boot rate and found no correlation. This makes me think that separating real-time and multi-day boot rates wouldn't be all that necessary.
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-06 00:28:48


Zephyrum
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Knyte, that's because retirees and vacations makes the multiday boot rates grow high in the sky. As well as these newbies who join WL, join a game and never logs back in. For the average warlight player like most of us here, real time boot rates are much, much higher than multiday's.

I'm pretty positive my boot rate for Real-Time would be quite bigger, though my multiday one should be ~10 games at best...
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-06 00:55:41


l4v.r0v 
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Knyte, that's because retirees and vacations makes the multiday boot rates grow high in the sky. As well as these newbies who join WL, join a game and never logs back in.


Give me a list of 100+ "average players" or a location where I can find them.

Edited 9/6/2015 00:55:58
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-06 02:45:59


Жұқтыру
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a location where I can find them.


Mogadishu University. Bring a gun.

Thanks for doing this knyte, you're very brave.

Edited 9/6/2015 02:46:18
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-06 20:45:58


Ox
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Hey knyte! Can you do a list based on Members to Players rate? I want to know which clans have the most members, and the most members relative to players.
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-11 02:02:49


l4v.r0v 
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Just saw this. Sorry, Ox- I'm going to be basically inactive for a while (just slowly taking my turns and trying not to let down teammates) because real life has picked up a bit.
Alternative Clan Rankings: 2015-09-11 02:43:15


Coronel Gavilan
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how do you get that info? any software? it's impressive
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