well i care about fairness ... nice to be different

What i wanted to say is, that fairness doesn't matter. You can make polls or new forum threads but nothing will be changed trough it.

i understood i was just being pedantic sry

what's the new map for 1v1?

Modified medium earth. Same as it was but east us and eaat russia have one terrority less

Anyways, copied and pasted directly from wiki:

The 1 v 1 ladder is a ladder that uses the strategic 1 v 1 template. The goal of the 1 v 1 ladder is to provide the most fun settings possible for 1v1. Although this usually correlates with reducing the luck factor as much as possible, the goal is not to remove luck completely.

i won my first game with the new template in one turn. i still don't like it.

Let's have a poll on this. VOTE NOW!

Which one do you prefer in ladder games?
http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=56069f9fe4b0148c68da6862

Ladder games concerned: 1v1 ladder, 2v2 ladder, 3v3 ladder

Choices available for each ladder (select one choice only)
1. Straight Round
2. Weighted Random
3. I don't know/mind

Each player can only vote once.
Both new players (who has recently joined or want to join ladder games) or old players are welcome.
Invite more people to participate in this poll. Bump this thread more. ;-)
The poll result will be published on 1 Oct 2015.

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/110747-u-prefer-straight-round-weighted-random

We need the original ladder back. The expansion is way too fast and there is no risk now.

Sry about this change, hope i continue to play
RIP

Fizzer thought the counting was biased, so now a new list that hopefully will be accepted by him:

All people in italics I`m not sure about. All bold people in the change group are prochange, but not a 0% SR change.

In favor of changing:
VaporWolf: "i also support these changes"
QuickSand: "+1000000"
Bjarke: "I think it would be sweet with 0% SR, but would prefer that it didn't come with No Luck Cyclic"
PS: "if it was up to me i'd have everything 0% SR."
AWESOMEGUY:"If it were just changed to 0% SR, I would find that better"
ChrisCMU: I am always for removing luck."
Krzychu: i have mixed feelings about 0% WR
Gnuffone
Mister Aqua: "please make it 0% SR, it would make the games more strategic "
Алексей: "+1 update auto templates to use pure skill "
Ryiro: "i like the idea of using 0-16 luck straight round in ladders"
Dr Walter Ego
Windows 10


Against changing:
MoD: "Me personally, i like the 1vs1 ladder as it is"
Anna: "i personally would prefer the 1v1 ladder stay as it is"
Benjamin628: "I think the 1v1 ladder should stay 0% WR"
Hades: "Yeah I think keep the 1v1 ladder as is "
Heliocentric: "I have a huge problem with the pure-skill system applied to Multi day games."
Almosttricky: "Please no "no luck cycle." I like to take the time to think my picks through. As far as the 16% luck, I am leaning to keeping it"
Hedja: "Please keep strategic 1v1 as it is."
Beren Erchamion: "The 1v1 ladder is perfect as it is."
Perrin: "I've always been pro-slight luck"
Knyte: "I like the 1v1 Ladder the way it is"
Hennns: "I'm personally not sure what I'd prefer with respect to luck.. However I do not want cyclic move, "
Widzisz: "0% SR on the other hand feels a bit too much"
Pink: "+1 and +1 to both of master of desaster's posts "
JudeBurger: "0% SR is great and I make many games with it, but it would make the ladder a bit stale and repetitive. Leaving an element of chance in is alright in my opinion, a knowledgeable player will weight the risks and accept that sometimes gambles pay off, sometimes they don't."
Peixoto: "1v1 Ladder - Keep the settings"
Dead Piggy: "Luck makes the games rich and complex"
MotD
Verzehrer: "I'm against removing luck from the ladders"
Master Atom: "Please don't make the 1v1 ladder no- luck cycle, 0% sr"
Smileyleg: "Count me in support for no changes to the 1v1 ladder"
Des: "with making it 0% luck is gonna make it not fun"
TBest: "Dosen't mean I won't the change through"
USA Biches: "I prefer the 0% WR for the 1v1 ladder"
Ace Windu: "Leave the 1v1 ladder the way it is."
Veelvraat: "I'm another one of those in favour of keeping the current 1v1 ladder.
I find that 0% SR is kinda boring actually. "
Good Kid: "It makes picking way less interesting"
Hostile: "I want luck to stay the same way."
FlyingDutchman: "i prefer 0 luck wr for the 1vs1 ladder"
E Masterpierreround
Master Turtle: "0% WR for 1v1 ladder!!!! Keep it the same!"
Pushover: "Please don't change the 1v1 template"
Ninja: "Just dont change it plz. Risk management is also a skill "
Tenshi: "Also 0% WR should be a better choice of luck here imo. As many of you, i also think that managing risks is skill, "

So this is: 13 vs. 33

People without quotes after their name, didn`t have one obvious sentence in their post that showed their opinion. Rather their entire post made it clear.

Edited 9/27/2015 19:23:08

Everyone,

Calm down. I don't know why when something like this happens, it's like the world ends. Like many have said, posting threads and comments on the forum do not do anything. Yes, it may get your opinion voiced and might make you feel better inside, but in the end, it will still be the same issue tomorrow as today.

You need to follow the proper channels. Fizzer said so himself! Whenever you have an issue:

https://www.warlight.net/ReportBug

How is changing a template that was the standard template for ages a bug?

I say we protest outside his office! I bet he works in his bedroom...

http://warlight.uservoice.com/forums/77051-warlight-features/suggestions/9945369-bring-the-old-1vs1-ladder-back

just saying

Fizzer:

The claim was that 90-95% of players were against 0% SR. I only had to read through two pages to refute the claim.

Actually, even on the first two pages, the vast majority of players was against 0% SR and nearly no one 100% for it. If it were 90% or 80% or 75% - still a big majority.
Besides that: just skimming through two pages doesn't give a representative picture after all.

Edited 10/2/2015 14:48:31

I posted the stats. %71 favored WR. But he did not say why he asked for feedback and what he would do with it

This shit is very disappointing.