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Hence, the dialogue can lead to true only if each of the speakers is actually open to it, sadly Juq here you are not open to the dialogue, that's why I compared you to Callicles, because whatever I say, you will always disagree even if the logic and facts prove that you are wrong.

I'm open to dialogue - being closed to dialogue means I'm not responding/refusing to give a counterargument. Also, don't kid yourself, you're not sad. I told you that validity principles aren't the same everywhere, also, show me two, undisputable, undeniable truths where I am wrong here ("facts").

Also, go talk to Eklipse some more, if you don't want to be a hypocrite about "being open to dialogue".

you will remain forever in your initial opinion (by the way this is how religious fanatics work).

You know what this is? 1: Unsupported, 2: Not true*, and 3: an insult folk use when the other folk isn't agreeing with them.

*Faith, for example - I am swayed, now I am atheist. Source: Quotation from me (I know you don't like myself, so if you can find a better source on categoric and countable variables of myself, do bring it)

You're just going to bring up everything in the chat? Ok, how about let's ask the community about what word they would use: Ba'athism or your "Baas". Just since there are Castillan* folk there doesn't give them a doctorate in Spanish* geographic names, they can be wrong.

Also, you notice how I said they were Castillan? Well, here, I use the word "Castillan" to mean being of the majority ethnicity and speaking the tongue of the old Castillan Kingdom, Spanish is a more vague word in the sense I'm using it - of or relating to Spain. Look this up in your Oxford if this is confusing you.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/Castilian
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/Spanish

Castilian is a word used in the Iberian peninsula, but if you go to Latin America you would just use « Spanish », there is really no need to argue about it since I agree about this.

I rely my argument on scientific/empiric facts, I do not trust any other very dubious sources.


Uh-oh, you used a very dubious source: most likely, yourself.

You see you are looking forward for fictional arguments, because you are always in the denial and because you think I would criticize each of your sayings, well sorry to disappoint you Juq, but I am not « mad » (as you said with your legendary tactfulness earlier), I know when people are right and when I am wrong,

What about you ?

Yes, I'm in denial that I'm a crackpot hypocrite lier bigot racist zealot dumbhead, and so are you, and so are very many folk. This is the same as your argument before - why do you argue/stop arguing if you're wrong? You have criticised all my sayings here, and you know in what situation I said that you were mad? It was when you were saying America is coward, why does not it invade while saying America does so much havoc and bad for the country it invades, you were losing your argument against Eklipse, so you had to say things like:

*Did you read what I said?
*Your quotation:Eklipse, you also said that ISIS would invade Israel and Turkey which is totally unlikely: they have no chance to match powerful armies.
Actual quotation: ISIS will probably have to invade Turkey or Israel before the general population of western countries even considers fighting them in full.
*About whether the US should have been involved or not in the Middle East, the answer is simple: No
*And again stop denying the truth
*Bush and his government asserted that it would bring democracy to this region? Oh really guess what we've got: ISIS...

Here is an example right now, where I am "changing my initial opinion" - I am beginning to think that Eklipse is right about the folk saying the same things.

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Ion serious conversation going on don't ruin it

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SA marschiert mit ruhig festem Schritt.
Kam'raden, die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen,
Marschier'n im Geist in unser'n Reihen mit.
Kam'raden, die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen,
Marschier'n im Geist in unser'n Reihen mit.
Die Straße frei den braunen Batallionen.
Die Straße frei dem Sturmabteilungsmann!
Es schau'n aufs Hakenkreuz voll Hoffnung schon Millionen.
Der Tag für Freiheit und für Brot bricht an!
Es schau'n aufs Hakenkreuz voll Hoffnung schon Millionen.
Der Tag für Freiheit und für Brot bricht an!
Zum letzten Mal wird Sturmalarm geblasen!
Zum Kampfe steh'n wir alle schon bereit!
Schon flattern Hitlerfahnen über allen Straßen.
Die Knechtschaft dauert nur noch kurze Zeit!
Schon flattern Hitlerfahnen über allen Straßen.
Die Knechtschaft dauert nur noch kurze Zeit!
Die Fahne hoch! Die Reihen fest geschlossen!
SA marschiert mit ruhig festem Schritt.
Kam'raden, die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen,
Marschier'n im Geist in unser'n Reihen mit.
Kam'raden, die Rotfront und Reaktion erschossen,
Marschier'n im Geist in unser'n Reihen mit.

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« an idiot », recall me what did you say earlier ? « so you have to insult me to further your argument » : guess what ! You failed yourself into your so called « logic fallacy » ! Pathetic.

Yes, I told you why I am less afraid to use sharp words around you.

And here you go again, i dont know if to « deny the truth » is part of your « logic fallacies » sacred texts, but you confirm one time more about what I said earlier, you are closed about any real dialogue, and even if you are wrong you wont accept anyone else to contradict you, because of your very big pride Juq. Galicia is the word chosen in English refering to the Spanish province located in the North West of the Iberian Peninsula. Galiza is the name used in the Galician language, but correct me if I am wrong :

- Do you say French or Français ?
- Do you say Poland or Polska ?
- Do you say Britanny or Breizh ?
- Do you say China or 中国 ?

Hence goes :
Do you say GALICIA or GALIZA ?

You got my point I hope, and if not I have thousand of other examples :)

But Galiza is already used in the English tongue; Galicia is more used, but Galiza is also acceptable - also, your examples are meaningless in such a very big booklender of site names - here are 5 counter examples

- Do you say France or França?
- Do you say Mongol or Menggu?
- Do you say America or Amérique?
- Do you say Guangdong or Canton?
- Do you say Britain or Prydain?

Even another source: https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Galiza&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=6&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CGaliza%3B%2Cc0
Similar to https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Guangdong&year_start=1500&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=6&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CGuangdong%3B%2Cc0

“Galizan” you say, you cannot even spell it correctly in the native language, in Galician the language is called “Gallego” not Galizan. Even if I were following your logic, you are contradicting yourself since you even do not use the proper native name of this language. “que vergoña!” (that's Galician for “what a shame!” dear juq)

I am not concerned with an argument over autonyms and when they should and are used - I am saying that the word Galiza should be used instead of Galicia, so for less confusion with the real Galicia. And let me show you a Galizan phrase: Espanha - não é Galiza

And last but not least to definitely end this ridiculous debate, and show you how wrong you are:
Guess what? “Galicia” is also used in the Galician language itself!
https://gl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galicia

I never said it wasn't - you could have even used my source for that, where the Royal Galizan Academy specifically said the official name is Galicia, but Galiza is also a valid name.

Wouah bougre Dieu! (forgive my French), this it is the height of ridicule, this shows how bad you are in expressing yourself, if you are presenting an argument without sources or anything that shows you are right, then my poor Juq, do not be surprised if people do not take you seriously.

So you are in clinic sadness thanks to my source lack?

and also, I was wondering when you were going to start including more sources in your quarreling replies, if ever, since that's one of your constant criticisms. (Actually, I was more than just wondering, I was very anxious, I started crying, Koala, why won't you put sources with your otherwise hypocritic comments? I was very mournful at the burial of using sources, but now I am so euphoric that you have used a source, even two! The sources have been resurrected!)

Hypocritical comments come from you not me, you refuse to argue properly, I will give you another definition of a word you shall definitely learn:
Misleading— a comment without solid proofs contradicts the well-known facts

No need to say more.

I already told you that if you want to learn how to express yourself and argue correctly, read the works of rhetorical masters of Ancient Greece, these are trustwhorthy works, not a random website with questionnable sources.

Yes, the sun is around the size of Peloponessia... these so-called cosmologists, they are just brainless zombies who have probably never read any of the works of the rhetorical masters of ancient Greece.

Also, Wikipedia is the "website with questionable sources - why are you using it? What are you thinking, backstabbing the "Ancient Greek Rhetorical Masters"?

You missed again an occasion to shut your mouth dear Juq, the source I provided came from the online version of the Oxford English Dictionnary, a well known national institution and a reference publication.

Stop trying to play piano with a knife - you can have the best knife in the world, certified by all knifemakers, crafted by molecule-thick layer to molecule-thick layer in 1800s Okinawa, but you can't play piano on it. You can't use a dictionary as an encylopaedia, not even a specialised dictionary. Wikipedia and Wiktionary say this specifically in their guidelines. And you are missing many opportunities to "shut your mouth" as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_dictionary
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Wiktionary:What_Wiktionary_is_not

OMG, you are beyond redemption, I pity you man.

Sun Yat-Sen was beyond redemption, too, to overthrow the Chinese government, but he did it in less than a year.

Everything you stated here is wrong... Greek thinkers must be turning over in their grave for your lack of ponderous comments and knowledge:
Karkalpakstan, you do not even know how to spell it correctly -_- Karakalpakstan...

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/Karakalpak

Luckily, Greek thinkers didn't speak English so they should be stationary in their graves. And I misspelled it by one letter - knowing you, I should apologise, not to the Gods, nor you, nor myself, but Aristoteles and the Greek thinkers - syngomi.

And the word was not Karapalpak, it was Karapalpakstan.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/spellcheck/english/?q=Karakalpakstan

And every Uzbek would be turning in his grave, that is what is for sure.

A member of an indigenous people living in the Karakalpak autonomous republic of Russia, south of the Aral Sea.

Whoops, I accidentally went in the future 25 years too far when I looked that up, I almost forgot the year was 1990, ha, sorry about that. One sea, one country.

Trinitroglycerine, unlike you did for my own articles and sources, I read your articles but here you talk about Nitroglycerin so here you have your Oxford article:
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/fr/definition/anglais/nitroglycerine

I didn't ask for nitroglycerine, I asked for Trinitroglycerine.
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/spellcheck/english/?q=Trinitroglycerine

Moskal:
http://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/acref/9780195081374.001.0001/acref-9780195081374-e-43773

That's not OED.

And if you think that showing some random words would be enough to criticize the Oxford University Press, who the hell are you? Ah yeah a ridiculous self-confident frog trying to get bigger than a Ox...

No, I'm an Arabian trader talking to his camel. And I wasn't even criticising Oxford University; but you can't use a dictionary as an encyclopaedia, even Oxford Dictionary.

Juq, you are far from being qualified about bringing new definitions and spelling, stop being a hypocrit man.

Stop being a hypocrite? I'm sorry I started this argument about Galiza's spelling - was talking about something else completely and mentioned Galiza and you immediately said Galicia*, did some research and turns out Galiza was right.

The English tongue was not made by a council of linguistics professors; nor was Volapük made by one, nor is Karakalpakstan in Russia, south of the Aral Sea.

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Again, your pride and arrogance are unveiled “I acknowledged your table, I said it was shabby”, Juq is expert in everything and thinks that he is better than everyone: giving new definitions and spelling and neglecting temperature tables because he thinks he is better qualified than any of those ignorant meteorologists, scientists and climatologists that made that table full of lies!
Unless you are a proven scholar/scientist in this field of study Juq you are not the one qualified to say “you're welcome to find a reliable cold table”.
And again about your sources they just showed extreme temperatures and their effect on human body.

I thought they were unveiled a while ago, weren't they? And since you love Oxford so much (don't backstab the Ancient Greek Rhetorical Masters - they know better!), you should know that you can't unveil something again.

Show or announce publicly for the first time.

In truth, the first sentence you said to me in this thread - Juq, you are as similar as Callicles, the one that want to be right even if the logic is against him: you show your arrogance, and has no moderation in your comments (and you were telling me about how to be polite ah).


If you didn't like my cold table (I assume that is what you didn't like, though your babbling I may misunderstood), I told you what to do - I couldn't find a comfort cold table, so you could if you didn't like mine. You should be happy - you have the chance to make day happy again with a source. And you squander it? No matter what level of learning you are, you can ask others to give a source to you. And if this is about me classifying a source as "reliable" or not, than what I must ask is two frains, 1: Aren't modern scholars and scientists something to the effect of "lazy, dumb idiots"? and 2: Why are you judging a source as unreliable, then?

I already told you that if you want to learn how to express yourself and argue correctly, read the works of rhetorical masters of Ancient Greece, these are trustwhorthy works, not a random website with questionnable sources.
here is a reliable source (something that you are sadly not able to provide each time)

Your table is in Fahrenheit - not scientifically accepted - dead giveaway.

I compared you to Callicles earlier, actually you are worse than him, and you do not deserve that title, you keep insulting me (“dumbness”) and contradict yourself everytime about your sacred logic fallacies (as insulting as you said earlier must be a logic fallacy)... Argh... damn I thought you could do better really I thought you were good at arguing, but I will relegate you to the very bottom of rhetorical proficiency, alongside Tyrion.

Sorry, great god, oh Calicles, I failed you. I told you why I am not afraid to use sharp tongue - mainly since you refuse to learn about a logic fallacy is and very often show them, so you don't even get about me not following logic fallacies, I explained this earlier. I remembered you used to be half-decent at arguing, but either Warlight arguing got raised to a much higher level while you were gone, or your arguing skills have been downgraded loads.

Tyrion is banned and yes he is a kid, sadly you are not better than him about the childish part of overreacting and arguing like a 5 yo kid. I hope you wont turn like him as a massive troll failure.

Whose (ove)reaction is this?

Ba'ath - I dropped the subject, then you brought up "Baas" again here.
Galiza - I was talking about Spain in general, I said Galiza and you said Galicia*. After a short bicker, forgotten, then you brought it up here.
Weather conditions - may be mine, but I didn't bring it up again, unlike...

But oh wait you are also in that category since you brought your stupid alt “coppertitanium” to our clan to make shit inside of it, you have no shame Juq.

CopperTitanium has no manager rights, you do - you can ask knyte for more information on this, but it's better for him if you don't, since you can't tell apart criticism and insults when they're written and when you write them.

Who the hell revived this thread?

I think it was Ion. And while reviving the thread he also revived the text war between Xpapy and Angry Panda. Which I'm totally staying out of because those two are really slugging it out.

God damn that's some serious arguing

Who the hell revived this thread?

You can tell - it's a 4-day different timestamp between Ion's Azov flag and Koala's politic cartoon. But I would do it anyway, I said I hadn't finished and was going to when I had the time to.

1 week to answer my post wow Juq this is why I knew you were out of arguments, if you think I will lose my time again with this whole pointless debate about whether Galiza or Galicia is the correct form or which is the best temperature, no I wont, the time is precious and seriously if you want to waste your own time with this, and contradicting yourself everytime, denying my own answers that were AT LEAST supported with reliable sources, go on Juq, continue to ridiculize yourself here.

Oh for f*** sake it's like listening to educated children

Going back to the topic, and leaving Juq to his solitude, I heard yesterday Russia and the Syrian regime launched a ground offensive against ISIS, whereas NATO (and above all America here) is worrying a lot about the outcomes.
The next couple of days will be certainly decisive and crucial about Syria's destiny. To be continued.

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Yes I agree
Wow I became the founder of a great thread
Tbh I got damn educated with every single sentence
Most speaken sense

1 week to answer my post wow Juq this is why I knew you were out of arguments

I was considering criticising you on that you are willing to waste your real life and work time, in other words, waste away your life on making another dumb argument as soon as you see it, but I thought that would be too harsh. I was wrong (not always right, am I?).

Really, not everyone is the same degree of loser as you, L^3^3^3, but to criticise other folk for not being as much a loser as you are, well, that's just bragging. And before you call me "dumb arrogant hypocrite" "worse than Callicalles", I do know that you tried to quit Warlight, but 1: you failed, 2: work comes first. Look at your profile: if you discounted the >1 day turns, most of which you got when you went on sabbath, your average turn speed at maximum is 4.3 hours , while at minimum, it's 1.9 hours; nothing that I would be proud of. Your total mode is less than 5 minutes (in a multiday, yes). And you call me out for not answering enough? Sorry, I guess I will have to be an antisocial freak who gets high whenever I invoke the Greek gods, no, not Zeus, you dumb, Aristoteles!

if you think I will lose my time again with this whole pointless debate about whether Galiza or Galicia is the correct form or which is the best temperature

I started this argument with one offhand sentence that took me less than two seconds to think of - you replied with a full paragraph dedicated about how I'm so arrogant, measly and dumb.

So I replied, not arguing about what was the best temperature.

You then started to argue about why Sevillan temperatures are the best.

Then you brought up that Galicia is the only right way to say Galiza.

You restarted this "whole pointless debate about whether Galiza or Galicia is the correct form or which is the best temperature" - why did you voluntarily lose your time? This just sounds like a copout to me, along with the rest of your paragraph.

I wont, the time is precious and seriously if you want to waste your own time with this seriously if you want to waste your own time with this

Really? Here's something you said, a bit modified, that I use to reply to this:

No arguments against me wow Koala this is why I knew you were out of arguments

Show me one reliable source you have, besides Oxford Press and Wikimedia.

But yes, I will "continue to ridiculize myself here."

The next couple of days will be certainly decisive and crucial about Syria's destiny.

Wars are rarely over in days. Russia's support is not nearly as great as Iran or Syrian governmental support, it will not change anything fast - Russia's too busy for that anyway.

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Xapy, looking at length of your posts, you better write a book

and probably you have nothing to do because you put so much effort on endless pointless topics
(yes, you cannot change the world so you are only wasting your time bruh)

you better write a book

Galiza - Borat.



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Xapy, looking at length of your posts, you better write a book

and probably you have nothing to do because you put so much effort on endless pointless topics
(yes, you cannot change the world so you are only wasting your time bruh)

http://enu.kz/repository/repository2013/zholdybayuly.pdf