iirc the christians tried to spread their religion through wars, colonization, and such as well, but I don't see them being condemned here. there are always nutcases in any group, stop confusing them for the entirety.

i don't know what everybody is complaining about. I don't think you guys read the article and just read the post and that fact that it is volmuk. I didn't think the article was that biased at all.

Even Atheists have tried to spread their ideology through wars and colonization but they even went a few steps further with deliberate mass starving and genocide.

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The difference between other extremists and Muslim extremists is that Islam itself promotes violence, if you haven't yet, go back and look at the Quran excerpts I posted on this forum

Muslim isn't a race you idiot

Fine then, it's religionist.

Christian colonization is a 20th century phenomenon, Islamic colonization is happening today. Neither of them are alright but people with white/European guilt are convinced that Islamic colonization needs to be supported because not supporting it, oh that would be "racist". What do you call it when a native population is discriminated against and terrorized in its homeland?

You might think White Christians deserve it right? The White Christians today had no part in colonization one hundred years ago. They don't deserve to be colonized as revenge.

How would the white guilt sjws feel if Christians had extremely high birth rates, were immigrating to Saudi Arabia, disrespecting the culture there and terrorizing the native population?

Don't call yourself an anti-fascist if you're fascist against European Christians.

"Tolerance", "anti-fascism", "anti-racism" means respecting EVERYONE'S right to self-determination, including *gasp* White Europeans.

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My IQ has dropped by nearly 20% after reading this thread. I'm never visiting this thread again, never.

The good thing is, after one of culture: islam or christianity prevails there will be peace again... for some time, similar to after second world war. But before this, millions may suffer

It's really awful. Some kids that are reading this might actually believe it! Just stop it that's no fun at all. Racism and hate is nothing to make jokes about. If you aren't trying to be funny, go and spread your ideologies on another forum where aren't that many children who read that.

@ Belgian Gentlemand... lol. You IQ dropped so low that that you forgot that IQ tests are extremely good at standing the test of time.

@ Belgian Gentlemand... lol. You IQ dropped so low that that you forgot that IQ tests are extremely good at standing the test of time.

Are we going to acknowledge that shooting up 120+ Europeans is as racist as saying hurtful things about Islam

Being afraid of Islam and people from the middle east is not racist. Especially with the world on alert now after the paris bombing. I would hope people would stop political correctness almost entirely for the sake of safety(I mean with governments not warlight). It's not alright to blame all muslims for the attack, but theres no way to determine who stands with isis and who doesn't, so people are acting out of fear when they blame them.

And on the US and Murder, black do in fact commit most of the murders despite being a minority.
http://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/htus8008.pdf

>inb4 "hurr hurr lawlz ur racist"

Absolutely correct on both points Lawlz and i hope kids DO read this and see what people really think rather than relying on the PC media who are afraid of losing their jobs if they tell the truth as truth is determined to be racist in society today

More like outb4 PC Police

The urban poor do predominately commit crimes, and blacks are heavy percentage of the urban poor in the US. That being said, of course there is cultural angles of things beyond mere economy--not because of genetic code(which utterly fails to measure race), but because we bond with people who look like us, who are our families, who are our community of peers. Yes, some violent subcultures develop, and the violent ones do tend to develop in undereducated and oppressed cultures. Peaceful ones too (just look at poor Asian-Americans--they get very little media attention but are virtually crimeless). To damn an entire culture by its subculture is a very dangerous endeavor. Similarly, however, to ignore a subculture is equally careless. There is a larger subculture of violent extremism in modern day Islam than other larger religions. Is that a call to persecute and execute Muslims? No. It's just a subculture.

As stated by others, fear and address extremists. The Quran is being grossly misrepresented, and the "scripture" encouraging arbitrary violence against nonbelievers is essentially fanfiction (like the direct conflict between the Christian Gospel and Revelations, etc). DO some extremists believe it? Sure! Should you believe all of them believe it? Nope. Most Christians also dont believe the zany texts some folks attribute to them. People always want an excuse for violence, it's not particular to one culture vs another.

There's also very little method of effectively combating a subculture of any size short of drawing people into a different mindset via education or through gross atrocity (which in turn makes the ones committing it the violent subculture). Even attempting gross atrocity though, if you go hunting a religion, you will fail for all the obvious reasons. Educating and reducing oppression does go a long way toward helping resolve the issue, but it is no easier to enact, and there is no quick way about it.

Profiling is only natural. Prejudice is natural. Despite popular opinion, both are not always wrong... but neither are they an excuse for violence. Being prejudiced is fine(who among us truly isn't? Are there no assumptions you make about a person by the ethnicity, status or creed?), being violently prejudiced is not. Keep it all manageable. Think of it like sex ed--not a abstinence or slut dichotomy, but an awareness. Believing that statistic trends must apply to the individual is DANGEROUSLY false, and we can all agree on that.

This thread essentially amounts to a front-question "is it right to be aware of statistics" (sure thing!) and a subquestion of "since stats indicate some people are worse than others, can we support massive collateral damage against innocents in a failed attempt to eradicate them?" (nope!)

You may not like the fanfiction or its readerbase, but you cannot kill all the fans of the original show to fix it. It doesn't work, and it's naughty.

Of course!
100% of islamic terrorists are muslim. -> We must be careful of muslims.
Most murderers are black in the US. -> We must be careful of black people. How about going back to segregation?
The majority of female murder victims are killed by their husbands. -> We must be careful of married men. Maybe we should ban marriage, just to be safe?
Hey, now that I think about it, most crimes are committed by men. Being afraid of men is not sexist. Especially with the world on alert now after the paris bombing, caused by men, not women. I would hope people would stop political correctness almost entirely for the sake of safety(I mean with governments not warlight). It's not alright to blame all men for the attack, but theres no way to determine who stands with them and who doesn't, so people are acting out of fear when they blame them.


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The saddest thing here, is that people reacting like this is exactly what the terrorists intended by attacking Paris.
Step 1: Stage an attack on a western country with an important muslim minority.
Step 2: Have all the morons in that country blame that attack on muslims by association, and start to discriminate them.
Sept 3: Take advantage of that discrimination to find new recruits amongst the muslim population.
(I'm not making this up, documents prove this was (is) one of Al-Qaeda's tactics.)

So, congratulations to everyone on this thread who badmouths islam and muslims. You can be proud of yourself, you're helping Daesh accomplish its goal!

Ysayell, imagine country A has war with country B, because country B is aggresive and invaded country A.

A guy from A spots in forest a soldier of B. The soldier starts to turn around. What he does? Two options:

- He is tolerant and runs away. Two days later soldier B spots him and kills him.

- He believes in social responsibility and remember when soldiers B raped his wife and burned his village. He wants to stop the invasion and insanity so he kills soldier B.

Living in Europe is a privilege, not a right for Muslims. Enough with the PC appeal to emotion, we need to look at this situation with logic: terrorism exists with any significant population of Muslims, and far more so than any other religion. The solution to preventing terrorism therefore lies with monitoring, restricting Muslims' access to European countries.

It is impossible to know which Muslims are terrorists and which Muslims aren't, so discrimination is necessary if we even want to think about stopping terrorism in Europe. It's unfortunate that this is the case, but saving lives is more important than hurting feelings. I'm not saying Europe should ban all Islamic immigration, but Muslims immigrating to Europe should be given strict background checks and only those actually willing to assimilate into the native culture should be allowed in. The number should not exceed a certain threshold and instigators should be banned permanently.