@Speck: based on the very small dataset that CSL has, the Czech Republic template from the 1v1 league (https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=667635) has the underdog (as per Elo rating at the start of the game) winning 23% more often than expected. Without looking a bit further into the games (as to whether players going into the game were underrated or overrated going in- CSL's first 10 cycles fluctuated rather wildly), that might be the best bet for a strategic player who suspects they're worse than Platinum and wants to even the odds (or odd the odds? odd the evens? idk) to make Platinum less likely to succeed. On the other hand, Rise of Rome 0% Luck (https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=655095) has the overdog winning 23% more times than expected so someone who believes themselves to be better all-around players than Platinum might want to opt for that. Guiroma (https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=655101) interestingly has neither the overdog nor the underdog winning more or less than expected, so maybe if Platinum wants a single template for the entire challenge, that could be a go-to. I mean, Guiroma's also a really good template regardless, and definitely fun af to play on as well.

The old Strat 1v1 template (ME, 0% WR- https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=655094) had the overdog winning 18% more than expected, while closest thing to the new one (ME, 0% SR - https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=655104) had the underdog winning 11% more often than expected.

Of course, the caveat: these data come from absurdly small sample sizes (10-13 games) and I wouldn't personally consider them anything near statistically significant- even on the CSL sheet, none of them have p-values below 0.05 (i.e., the probability of obtaining these seemingly biased results purely due to chance given that the template itself isn't biased ranges from 7% to 30%- so no conclusions should be drawn from these data unless you just have really low standards for statistical significance). These are just some starting points that may be used to construct further hypotheses, ofc, but I'm offering them because I don't know of any serious efforts to collect this sort of data.

Edited 11/25/2015 20:50:25

^^^ interesting stats, knyte.
thanks for sharing. :)

Edited 11/27/2015 04:14:59

I want to challenge the entire 101st to a 100 game match, if they can break any of my bonuses I'll be impressed.

I want to challenge the entire 101st to a 100 game match, if they can break any of my bonuses I'll be impressed.

Please start with me, let me destroy your inaccurate worldview.

Don't react to trolls... -_-

why shouldnt i?

^
Because it a fairly accurate world view (Some of Pulsey's Stats)

1 v 1 ladder: Not Ranked with a rating of 0. Best rating ever: 2376, best rank ever: 1st

2 v 2 ladder with Jehovah: Not Ranked with a rating of 0. Best rating ever: 2026, best rank ever: 1st

3 v 3 ladder with Odin and little X: Not Ranked with a rating of 1797. Best rating ever: 1773, best rank ever: 3rd

i know how to open somenones profil and can check those stats by myself, but thanks. It doesnt change a thing.

It does change things
Solar empire just eased your trouble of clicking his profile

Pulsey + Odin.. two players with great impact on competitive play. Thanks to those two douches ladder stalling has become an acceptable "art". Before them the ladder stallers were the bad guys who were also ashamed of themselves. Nowadays if you point out to someone that they should stop stalling they get seriously annoyed and blacklist you for your bad attitude.

Edited 11/27/2015 17:40:09

Wow... i have to agree with kidding. Strange

Out of curiosity how did they make it acceptable?

Also how does ladder stalling even work does it happen just on the seasonal (as I heard about some fiasco between Mod and Dr Walter Ego on the seasonal) or can you stall on the 1v1 ladder and if you can how does that affect things (even thought it must be annoying as hell) as the 1v1 doesn't end its linear right?

Edited 11/27/2015 17:47:20

Seems ymbk still can't get over the fact that some players play slowly. Also, seems he still cannot get over the fact that Norman is his alt/main, and that his troll act amuses no one, nor does anyone even believe it anymore... I don't even see why he bothers trying anymore, seeing how tryhard he is about shoving M'Hunters strength in everyone's face. Are you blind to reality, ymbk? Or is this is entirely a troll act? I dearly hope so, for your sake.

ymbk isn't wrong on that Point. pulsey and Odin stalled a lot on the ladders to blockade the topspot for as long as possible.

solar empire, the stalling on the seasonal and the 1vs1 ladder has different reasons.

if you stall on the 1vs1 ladder it's to try to get ranked with as few losses as possible. After you got ranked you surrender your stalled games.

On the seasonal it's a bit different. There you stall to get paired up with stronger opponents with a higher Rating. Even if you lose to those, your Rating won't go down a lot. But if you win, you completely destroy their Rating after you surrender your earlier lost games too.

@MoD
Thanks for the Info I think I understand it more now

@Nackickwind
Why do you think YMBK is also Norman? (I hope they aren't the same)

Question to 101st, what kind of screening process/ background checks did you do for past management hiring? Because you got Platinum, and before that you had ____.

Well I don't necessarily disagree with what ymbk said, but his talk about blacklisting and stalling is an attack on me following our 2vs2 game. I am a slow player, and I even excused/explained myself to him and his teamate, but since we had an argument which I clearly believe to have won, since he wasn't able to answer me in any way, he has since then attacked me. Is wanting the 2vs2 gold trophy for even a few seconds a sin? I don't really believe so, but ymbk has proven to me countless time that he is blind to reason.

Edit : ymbk is Norman... check the way they both type: it's identical, and not only that, but if you check his 3vs3 game against qi, he openly announces Norman as an account.

Edited 11/27/2015 18:08:21

yeah i wished i had the seasonal trophy for a few seconds too :P

@Legacy, You are best to contact JSA or Apollo regarding myself..

Out of curiosity how did they make it acceptable?

Have to search the forums ;)

Also how does ladder stalling even work does it happen just on the seasonal (as I heard about some fiasco between Mod and Dr Walter Ego on the seasonal) or can you stall on the 1v1 ladder and if you can how does that affect things (even thought it must be annoying as hell) as the 1v1 doesn't end its linear right?

You get yourself into the top 10 to probably max 15 legitimately with a low number of games (won't work for a top 200 player of course...) Then you play 5 games at a time, win maybe 3 and lose 2. However you don't surrender your lost games but drag them on. Your 3 won games give you another 3 games to play, maybe you win 2 out of them... and after that you have 5 additional victories and no defeat which will hopefully give you first place. You can continue this stuff until you either get eliminaated in one lost game or you get 5 open losses.

For example I'm currently ranked 2258 in the 2v2 ladder while the number 1 team is at 2268. It would be very easy for me to dethrone them by increasing my game count, playing my victories fast and my losses slow. Good players know very well if they are in a winning or losing position. If not taken to the extreme with me running around till elimination it takes a trained eye to identify me as a fraud.

Edited 11/27/2015 18:27:45