no because the $15 price is to stop people from making clans for no reseon so i think that if there is a clan tournament it should be free to clan leaders/manegers

If it was for free, some troll (possibly me) would have made a lot of accounts, and made a lots of clans, and used current clan names to troll.

The $15 means that people who are really serious about making a clan can do so.

I think it would be fun to see an ongoing 'king of the mountain' set up between clans.

Players for either team would queue and the players at the top of the list would play a set template (later perhaps a choice of several) to determine the king of the mountain. The next player on the losing team would then step up to challenge.

Similar to the ladder, players could join or leave at any time. Stats and records could be linked to the clan pages, allowing outsiders to come and view them when they check out the clans.

This system could also be used for clan battles, if both clans were to choose X number of players and the winning clan would be declared when every member of one clan has been defeated.

Edited 9/23/2013 05:45:26

Thanks Fizzer for making clans official
as to clan wars I think a clan ladder could work
a 1v1 would be fun and I would do it similar to the 1v1 ladder
but each clan will be represented by several clan members and the clan ratings would be the combined rating of all participating clan members
a strategic ME template of course would be nice but a rotating template would be awesome
obviously you should program it so no same clan members would be paired against each other
and maybe make it so that each clan needs minimum clan members to participate in it
but anyway any kind of clan war would be great

Edited 9/23/2013 11:19:38

The simples way is the best. Why not add a setting to a new game "Clans only game", where you can add people to teams only within the same clan.

These games would be shown on clan page as played by clan vs clan.

There sould be new type of open games "Clan games" which only clan members would see. There should be some improvement in inviting players or clans to the game.


1) You make a clan game and CHOOSE an opposite clan or clans (put it like an open seat) - it is shown on clan's page as open game to join for any clan memeber.
2) if you do not declare what clan u play against, any clan member can join opposite team and then it is reserved only for that clan
3) there should be some limits - if game is 3v3 a member or 2 players clan can not join it and if a game is 3v3 and you got 3 memebers, 2 joined the game and 1 left clan - those 2 players should be removed from the game, and if it was vs invited clan - the invitation should be cleaned.

we need flags first
the most important feature for Warlight now

Real-time 1v1 ladder
Multiple multi-day ladders
Challenge-based ladder (with option to decline)
Seasons with divisions (like how most team sports work)
^^ All with individual and clan ranks

Clan Wars:

Each Clan War season the clan leaders can create one tournament and each clan has one or two teams participate.

Though, if this clan/league system is to work properly, the tournaments probably need to be overhauled. Logical and fair tie-breakers, seeding, records and ranks WHILE the tournament is in progress, new tournament options in addition to RR and single/double-elimination (seasonal ladder format would work), etc.

In all honesty what in I would like to see in general is a lot of different ladders with different maps and settings

At the moment mere mortals like myself stand no chance of getting close to the top of the ladder as 1v1 just isn’t my strong point so I get bored of it very quick. I think it would be nice to see the following ladders

1v1s rotating maps
2v2 rotating maps
3v3s
5v5s
4FFA
Large FFAs
some sort of multi attack ladder

We need ladders that showcase people that have different skills other than just 1v1 or 2v2 on medium earth

If we had these then there would be no reason we couldn’t have the same for clan but maybe even with rotating maps and players so that each game randomly picks players from your pool. On your clan page you register which players are happy to enter which ladders

So for example on the 3v3 ladder your clan sets it to 2 games at a time and when one game finishes the system plucks out 3 random players from the clan who have registered for 3v3 to play against another clan

This way even if you play the same clan regularly at least you shouldn’t always be playing the same players

this is all just thinking out loud....i know the programming behind this wouldn't be easy

I like mac's ideas a lot.

Just a request from those of us not in clans. Whatever you do do, try not to make it so you don't have to be in a clan to get functionality out of the game.

I know you see this as the best way of attracting new players and everything. But there are also a lot of people who like warlight for what it is. And joined warlight for what it is. And told their friends about warlight because of what it is. And paid money to support warlight for what it is.

I'd like you to remember them as well Fizzer when you're making your clan changes.

Edited 9/23/2013 14:06:36

I understand the need for a barrier, but why $15? Why not unlock it at a certain level (and only allow 1 clan to be created with that unlock)? Or maybe grandfather in the ones that have been here for over a year? Or maybe the ones that have participated in the clan wars we have been doing for years (that JSA runs)?

My proposal is my favorite theme: implement the chess system :P

For clanwars you can implement the Chess Bundesliga system for example.
During implementation you can use the present clan league format (I mean not only 1vs1 but 2vs2 and 3vs3 'tables' too)

I have ideas for the exact implementations (map rotation method with black-white, flexible lineups for the different rounds based on the clan power rankings sheets, etc.), but I assume the community don't need a 'professional' clan league system (I mean only pure competition, no MMOPRG feeling or additional map advantures, etc.), so I won't write them (saving my time) :P

For a barrier it could have been 15 dollars for non members and 5-10 dollars for members.

i think that there are many great ideas floating around but i would like to point out one of the lines that fizzer said in his post "If WarLight were to add a way for clans to declare war on each other, how would you like this to work?" that's why i suggested my idea now i am not saying that he can't use all the ideas here but could we consider that?

If it was for free, some troll (possibly me)

and your clan

Clan Wars are fun because they add a percieved greater value on a game. You are fighting for a purpose. This is one of the reasons we founded {rp} in the first place, to get more fun out of these sorts of games.


I envision clan wars with the following structure:

A tournament like page where all members of the clans involved can join the games as open slots. Each game will have a different setting however (This can be arranged beforehand by whoever initiates it. You could have it so that half the games are designed by one team, and the other by their opponents. Perhaps have some standard template games also, like strat 1v1.).

It would be prudent to have some games set as "locked" that can only be joined once other games have finished. Similar to how in tournaments, the next game is created only after the prior was has finished.

You could add custom options like a max amount of games 1 person can join, weighted point-values for the games (so 1v1s earn more than 3v3s, or visa-versa) and other things.

The winning clan will be the one which obtains the higher score by the end.

Ideally there would include an easy-to-view page that shows all the games and the current score. Perhaps with a nice image of the two clans' logos and their current score beneath it. You could also name the top-scoring player from each clan at the top, just for abit of fluff.

Edited 9/23/2013 17:17:08

Two Systems, which can be ran in parallel.

Wars:
1) Clan Officials from Clan A propose a War.
2) Clan Officials from Clan B must accept a War.
3) Wars can either be single players or teams
4) Clan B then proposes a template, Clan A Approves the Temmplate.
5) A Quasi-Tournament is set up, and clan mates join teams.
6) WarLight creates the games, and at the conclusion of the games, gives a winner.
7) The clan gets a win/loss record that sticks with the clan.
8) Bragging rights.
9) But right now, there's nothing more to the clan system than just a thread and a tag. But i f you put restrictions on the clan (Cap the number) or add features that are unlocked for clan wins. (Open another brainstrom thread for clan features :)

Ladder:
Have another ladder running (Or just the current ladder system) And skim off the points from wins/losses according to people's clan affiliation.

Could get tricky with 2v2 ladder and non-clan teams, and FFA type ladder games.

So much for a clan control map.

yep thats what my last post was trying to promote

dose that mean someone liked my idea?