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More gun laws or America!!!!!!!!: 2015-12-09 02:36:25


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The problem is that in many people's opinion the states are not doing their job regulating the guns. Also crossing state borders is not particularly hard, which is why many argue for Federal regulations. (Since making your state regulate guns, may be easily circumvented by buying in the neighboring state.)

Edited 12/9/2015 02:40:11
More gun laws or America!!!!!!!!: 2015-12-09 02:43:41


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im not against guns, im against any random idiot being able to carry guns anywhere near me. prove to me you are not going to accidentally shoot me, or shoot me cause i look at you the wrong way, and i will accept you and your gun's presence near me. if you can whip out a certification saying you are professionally trained to handle crisis situations with a firearm i will shake your hand and thank you for your service.

you may have a right to defend yourself against a tyrannical gubment (good luck doing that with a gun anyway), you may have a right to protect yourself in your home, but you don't have a right to EVER turn a public space into a shoot out. i have a right to safety just as much as Joe Gun Nut, and that right is being infringed because vigilante idiots with violent fantasies feel the need to strut around in wal-mart with their surrogate cocks at their hip.

we don't want to take away your guns (unless you are a criminal. are you a criminal?) we know that more gun regulations aren't going to magically end all gun deaths, but we do think it will greatly reduce them. everyone (nearly everyone anyway) in the gun rights/2nd amendment/NRA camp always exaggerates the threat to their gun rights, creating a boogeyman for them to easily beat. the tone of the gun debate is so absurd that arguing your side is a sisyphean task. the gun rights crowd has effectively won the argument by being the dumbest, loudest, and most extremist voice. gg.
More gun laws or America!!!!!!!!: 2015-12-09 02:45:51

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This also means that laws that prevent free citizens from carrying guns in public or private places is unconstitutional.


Respectfully, no. The following is copy/pasted from the Supreme Court's ruling in DC vs. Heller:

2. Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.

The Second Amendment is not a free pass to "absolutely no infringing whatsoever". It's an assurance that weapons for self defense will be legal for law abiding citizens to own and carry. This does NOT mean that every available weapon has to be made legal to carry. Also, you cannot possibly argue that the framers "looked to the future and were and were content with it" That's like saying Jesus was looking to the future when he taught, so he must have been content with the Christian terrorist groups that have been operating in Africa. I think the Biblical Jesus, at any rate, might have had problems with them, but that is a discussion for another thread.
More gun laws or America!!!!!!!!: 2015-12-09 04:51:30


[WOLF]WARLORD
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lets all be together and defend or country
More gun laws or America!!!!!!!!: 2015-12-09 05:22:39

wct
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+infinity, shyb.
More gun laws or America!!!!!!!!: 2015-12-09 05:38:01


Diety Emperor Cacao, God Ruler of the Universe 
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The truth is nobody should have guns. The only reason someone would have guns is too kill someone or something. Anyone carrying guns should be arrested for conspiracy. There's no other reason to have a gun.

Such like that there's no other reasons besides killing by owning grenades, tanks, protective armor etc.
More gun laws or America!!!!!!!!: 2015-12-09 06:40:42

[wolf]japan77
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Shut up and fund the Trigger so we can just disable all carbon-based explosives and live in peace.
More gun laws or America!!!!!!!!: 2015-12-09 14:11:06


[WOLF]WARLORD
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what happens when the government makes it legal for federal officials to enter ur house without a warrant.
More gun laws or America!!!!!!!!: 2015-12-09 14:27:04


Major General Smedley Butler
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If the second amendment can't apply to semi-automatic rifles , pistols as such why does the first apply to the internet, radio and television?
More gun laws or America!!!!!!!!: 2015-12-09 17:13:59


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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^ +infinity
More gun laws or America!!!!!!!!: 2015-12-09 17:45:58


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There's no reason to be afraid of background checks/additional gun regulations. People who already have guns (And most who care to own weapons already have a significant stockpile) aren't going to be affected. The proposed changes would only make it harder for people to get new guns, and if you're a sane/capable person you should have no problem getting through the new checks.

The U.S government isn't going to confiscate everyone's weapons, they'd be idiotic to even try.
More gun laws or America!!!!!!!!: 2015-12-09 17:49:39


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I have an idea. Keep guns legal, but make bullets $5000! When people are thinking of killing somebody, they'll think "Do I want to waste $5000 on this!?"
More gun laws or America!!!!!!!!: 2015-12-09 17:51:34


Eklipse
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Keep guns legal, but make bullets $5000! When people are thinking of killing somebody, they'll think "Do I want to waste $5000 on this!?"

Looks like ammo sales are going to be booming on the black market.
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