Yesterday general elections of Spain, one of the most important European state, took place for electing the next government and head of state.

The winner for now is the PP (right wing) but PSOE and Podemos (leftist and anti austerity parties) could ally themselves.

What are your thoughts on that?

not more politics

why not?

I know enough about politics to know not to get involved

I'm sorry koala. .. but. ..

Spain has into irrelevance

I read about 30 newspapers a day and spend about 3 hours on politics...didn't even remember the Spanish elections were yesterday and let alone cared enough to read up on it.


That being said...I'll check out the results later today. Until then I couldn't possibly comment an analysis except that Spain needs help fast...their country is still on the brink.

I had more interest in Canada's election than Spain's.

yep, well Clement Canada is part of the so called "anglosphere" (or partly as real Canada isnt ;) ) so nothing surprising.
I have more personal interest about Spain for now, as I am from a lace close to Spain. If Spain collapses it will have more impact in Europe than for example Canada, so I guess it is important for us Europeans to care a little bit at least about the future of this country.

Genghis your own comment shows how ignorant you are, that's pretty sad.

Spain offered Spanish Citizenship to a bunch of Descendants of the Jews who were exiled during the Inquisition.

We still await Turkish compensation to Armenia

I have more personal interest about Spain for now, as I am from a lace close to Spain. If Spain collapses it will have more impact in Europe than for example Canada,

I don't think either of those countries have an economy in immediate danger of collapsing. Sure, Spain's economy isn't at it's most productive right now, but it's not in a situation as bad as Greece is.

so I guess it is important for us Europeans to care a little bit at least about the future of this country.

Correction: it is important for the Eurozone

Edited 12/21/2015 22:29:04

that's funny your talk about Turkey, I always thought Spain and Turkey looked much alike historically speaking, knowning both a kind of religious reversal (one muslim to christian the other christian to muslim), both being major historical nations, and most advanced (see Al Andalus and Byzantium) that later colonized or conquered huge parts of the world (america for one, the middle east and east europe for the other one), both having big minorities (kurds or basques) struggling for independence, and the list goes on.

Koala there's this thing called being so smart that you just don't give a fuck anymore and you just say what you want. But in this case, I'm just laying down the cold-hard facts :

SPAIN IS IRRELEVANT

Ok Genghis, then I am ready to listen to your own arguments about how Spain is irrelevant: the fact that you know nothing about this country does not allow you to make such minimalist, infinitesimal and meaningless comment about it. I expect better from you.

Clement if you think Britain is safe with the Eurozone collapsing, then you are dreaming my dear British comrade. Spain is ok for now but for how long this is the question, Spain is 5 times bigger compared to Greece, so if something similar happens again we are all doomed, and not only Europe.

DETECTIVE GENGHIS IS ON THE SCENE!

Alright, so, Spain is into debt and EU. As we all know, EU and debt mix together like wine and buffalo wild wings (actually I've tried it before and it's only mildly disgusting). Spain is also into matador/bull fights. Keep these 2 things in mind

Spain's entire economy is based on bullfighting and tourism. That much I know. However, all the people go to Spain expecting Mexicans who beg for money. Instead, they get white people begging for money. Nobody want to give money to the Greedy Whitey!

Thus, tourism is dwindling at an exponential rate! Just look at this graph!



Thus, they are not getting those juicy, plump service-sector jobs. So, everybody is going broke and losing jobs. 33% of the nation is already unemployed, this is projected to be 69% by the 25th. Just look at these statistics!


So, what did we learn? Let's find out!

Case File: Spain! Should it be Relevant?
Evidence : 1 graph, 1 statistic. Spain's economy is built on Tourism and Bullfighting
Conclusion : Spanish economy is down the tube.
Verdict : Spain is now irrelevant.

*hops in cop car, drives away*

lol Genghis that was funny at least.

Portugal and Italy are in the same boat as Spain...if any one of them collapse and leave the EU it would be 10X more (just a hyperbole not an actual statistic) dangerous that Greece leaving. That being said, this should not discourage a real debate about whether countries should be in the EU at all. Greece was over-dramatized because it was the first EU country to be near collapse and leave the Euro, thus is would set a precedent for other countries.

Clement if you think Britain is safe with the Eurozone collapsing, then you are dreaming my dear British comrade. Spain is ok for now but for how long this is the question, Spain is 5 times bigger compared to Greece, so if something similar happens again we are all doomed, and not only Europe.

Nor am I claiming that we could be 100% fine. However, the Eurozone has a lot more to worry about from Spain's economy, which probably won't collapse. I'm far for concerned about what effect gullible idiots believing UKIP's propaganda will have on the British economy than I am about what effect Spain might cause.

To be fair we shouldn't worry about UKIP as they got what 1 seat in parliament. They only prosper in poverty stricken places such as Greater Manchester in places such as Rochdale and Oldham because wouldn't you know it many racist and lower class voters reside there.