https://www.warlight.net/LadderSeason?ID=3

With all due respect to Mercer, i hope his first place helps him and Fizzer realize the flaws in realtime ladder system, he doesn't deserve the first place at all imho, his biggest accomplishments were beating #2 twice and #4 once.

How can this be enough to push him into #1 rank? I'm not a rating specialist but i reckon it's due to the standard deviation not having narrowed down as much on a player who only played 153 games (Mercer) as opposed to someone who played 973 (Buns).

It just feels like the more you play the ladder the more you'll get pushed down in your rating instead of up. This favors creating new accounts and doing fresh rounds, which imho should be the opposite of what the realtime ladder is meant to represent.

Also, where is our promised poll to change templates? Could really use a fix on EO&A, turkey LD, etc

after like 100 games there should be no difference on games anymore. but fact is, that high rated Players get punished hard if they get matchups with low rated Players. no (or almost no) benefit if they win, but if they lose the Rating is down.

Mercer benefits from Buns 3 losses today.

I'm waiting for polls for over a year now. i don't have the hope that they are created soon even if fizzer promised last AMA. he also promised periodical polls after we voted out the first few awful templates on the rt ladder and voted in Greece and treasure map.

time for another round of voting out templates. EA&Oceania, Heavy Earth, Turkey, Season I. Big 4 of the rt ladder are disliked by almost everyone as far as i heard on the Forum.

Looks like RT ladder templates have never been changed, is that correct? People were complaining about the templates you mentioned since the RT ladder was implemented.

Elo rating operates in that way..... it's the same in chess, even in tennis... the more you play you are in a great danger... if you are #45 and you defeat a #1 is more important and relevant than a #1 beating #2....

There were some changes, but that is years ago. Templates like ME with Diplo card got voted out there.

Nah he deserved to be first, he played enough games and his standard deviation is small enough. I also lost alot of games in a row today to drop below him, so like any other ladder that normally causes you to drop heavily if first.

But regardless I'm trying to become first again before 1:30 am GMT so he doesn't get his trophy!

in vainglory they reset the stats every few months (and give you a badge to the highest tier you achieved on previous season), maybe something like that could be applied.

otherwise i don't really see the incentive to keep playing your old account once you got yourself a couple embarassing losses and your goal is to get to #1. easier to start with a fresh account.

You talk too much :(

Come play!

playing with new accounts give very Little Advantage on trueskill imo. buns dropped due to his recent 3 losses. but he will be at a Rating of 2090 again soon. this System is waaay better than bayesolo. the only Problem is that you can pick opponents on the rt ladder.

You can pick opps on normal ladder as well if you want.

yes i know at least one Player who does that. a pity. but it's still much harder and Needs more effort than on the rt ladder.

can anyone write something bad or racist or offensive iw ant to use that report button please

Well Timi joined. Your argument is invalid.

A wild Timinator appears and spoils the fun :P

yey i will report tony for calling timinator, timi and thats not nice at all .
guys just chill and play, mircer is a good player he beat buns more than one, so he is better than him somehow but the rating stuff really suck , when you win you almost get nothing but if you lose you lose a lot ,so the bad thing is that you waste a an hour or so in game for 1 point or so thats suck

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the Problem is not the Rating calculation. the possibility the get a matchup with a 1500 Points lower rated guy is the Problem. that problem can't be easily solved unless there are constantly like 20+ players on the rt ladder.

i see everyone in about where he belongs ranking wise on the ladder (don't be offended, YOU should be ranked higher).

I read somewhere once that even if you dont gain points or even lose a point due to a low rated player, that in the long run it helps your rating. Though not sure how reliable the guy who said it was.

@redbloody don't be a silly monkey hunter, I have never been beat on the rt ladder.

your "TrueSkill Mean" always rises trough a win, but your "TrueSkill Standard Deviation" falls if you Play low rated opponents. so in the end you can say you never lose even if your Overall Rating decreased about 1 or 2 Points after a win. but if your Opponent was so low, your "TrueSkill Mean" will not go up enough to justify the matchup. there's still a Chance to get booted or you have to leave, or your Opponent Plays the best game of his life.

what did you just call me b$$$$ i dont give a s$$$ who the f$$$ you think you are buns =respect to be respected = f$$$$$ turtle go f$$$y$$$ s$$$$
and here some of your games were you lost and it masters hunter not monkey hunter b$$$$

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10467133 mifran

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10359746 mercer

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=10259041 mercer

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Thats not me, silly monkey hunter. You must be mistaken, I have never lost :)

@mod yeah that seems right, however I don't really mind my rating not increasing after a win. It just means that they are rated that far below you that you should win all the time :P