PETA is a joke.

German BND and Verfassungsschutz. They are either a joke, evil or outright my enemy.

I agreed with most the groups you listed. But why Monsanto? If it's because of GMOs, those aren't necessarily bad on their own. It just depends on how the technology is used.

I just don't trust large scale biotechnology companies trying to whole-sale apply genetically modified technology into the foods we eat without having to legally place all the detailed information on the packaging labels (unlike in Europe).

They also have a nasty litigation history of going after small farmers who don't pay their royalty fees for their patented seeds, even if they were simply windblown.

Lastly they're one of the biggest agricultural lobbyists in the US ($6.3 million in 2011) and are a hugely responsible for the irresponsible farm bills that get passed every year that give out huge subsidies to giant agribusiness companies. They're just shady in my opinion.

+1 Jai

Monsanto is one of the most dangerous organization. I am happy to be living in a country where their products are still forbidden or severely regulated (this may not be for long if TTIP is finally enforced limiting our freedom). GMO not dangerous? Try to inform yourself better before listening to some brainwashing propaganda, the same propaganda neglecting the existence of global warming.

Oh bull. If there was counter-global warming propaganda you wouldn't see the huge amount of belief in it. I think oil money could definitely cause a bigger dent in belief than this.

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If you’re 29, there has been no global warming for your entire adult life. If you’re graduating high school, there has been no global warming since you entered first grade. There has been no global warming this century. None.
— Mark Steyn

But we’re responsible for all the carbon dioxide greenhouse effect? Gracious no! Humans can only claim responsibility, if that’s the word, for about 3.4% of carbon dioxide emitted to the atmosphere annually, the rest of it is all natural…
— Steven Milloy

The e-mails reveal that leading climate “experts” deliberately destroyed records, manipulated data to “hide the decline” in global temperatures, and tried to silence their critics by preventing them from publishing in peer-reviewed journals. What’s more, the documents show that there was no real consensus even within the CRU crowd. Some scientists had strong doubts about the accuracy of estimates of temperatures from centuries ago, estimates used to back claims that more recent temperatures are rising at an alarming rate.
— Sarah Palin

Ah, so you guys have a beef with Monsanto due to GMOs... /disappointed

There was never any evidence that GMOs are truly dangerous, that is more than enough for me to trust it. If no one can really prove it is a danger, even with so many people suspicious, then itlikely is NOT a danger. I do agree they need to be marked though, so if you don't like them, just don't buy them.

Most people around here don't even give a shit about GMOs, but they all hate Monsanto due to the deforestation cause by their farms. But they actually help because they find a way to remove the small properties (much more damaging to the forest due to unwise use of the land) and latifundia (burns trees, takes up space, nearly improductive) in the outer amazon for their own megafarms, which we make a good penny from.

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Yes there are people who don't believe in it. Does it make it propaganda to not believe in something that doesn't have proof?

Stop trying to twist the truth. There is propaganda here, pro-global warming propaganda that tries to drown out all other voices and often succeeds reducing those who criticize it to a hated and ignored status.

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Zeph I never said I had a beef only because of GMOs, I am aware of deforestation, and still do not understand your position about destroying the Amazonian forest, rare fauna and indigenous cultures, for what? Tell me.

As for GMOs there are been many studies already you may not know them at all or ignore them, but GMOs have been proven to be the direct cause to an increase of gluten intolerance or allergies in America, tumours, birth defects due to glyphosate as well as a link with parkinson, Alzheimer or autism.

This is called propaganda major, particularly if it is conveyed by politicians sadly listened by millions of people.

Panda, the pro-global warming scientists and politicians are just as guilty of propaganda then. Even more so by seeking to silence critics.

It's not "destroying", it's just that we divert too many resources and avoid using others trying to protect naked people who don't even know we exist. Like, seriously, a good % of our taxes goes to the protection of indigenous tribes that never ever heard of human civilization - at best, they saw a chopper on the sky and that was it, probably thinking it was armaggeddon or something.

And I don't think Monsanto helps us by attacking the fauna and flora, but rather, by by attacking in a less damaging way than most and kicking the others out in the process.

Propaganda is spreading lies such as saying global warming does not exist hence neglecting scientific general consensus, there is no pro or anti global warming scientists, scientists are all aware of global warming, the ones still not recognizing it are some politicians mainly corrupted by lobbies from industrial corporations and societies threatened by a legislation regulating greenhouse gas emissions and consequently defending them.

So tell me Texan boy, since when global warming is a lie?

Question, Koala - have you ever heard of the Vostok Ice Core samples? They show carbon dioxide follows warming, not the other way around. Man-made CO2 emissions are not killing the world.

Everyone knows that anthropological global warming is not a problem for the planet. It is a problem for humanity.

Shit happens. The Earth cools and heats. Also, how can people be so self-centered as to believe that the EXACT temperature best for the world is the EXACT one we have now? How do we know we wouldn't be better off colder or hotter? It just seems so arrogant.

That is not not problem. Change is not what world leaders want. They favor a system called "stability". And if a country like Bangladesh gets flooded even more often, well, you know how many people live there.

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Propaganda is spreading lies like humans being the main reason global warming is happening. Maybe if the sci-priests actually showed proof I'd show faith. And there are politicians who support the global warming-caused-by-humans people. Like Obama, the Clintons, Al Gore, Merkel and Bush.

Tell me now, French boy how is it that people who are all most definitely corrupt all agree on something and that thing is certainly true? How is it that these people who mislead is every day, make deals behind our backs and murder thousands are being honest?

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PE, since the beginning of Earth's existence, there have been cooler and warmer periods, due to many factors: sun activity, plate tectonics, extraterrestrial causes such as collision with asteroids, volcano activity, etc. The thing is that for at least one century there is indeed a general warming, and a general consensus on it. Also please stop being ridiculous, man made greenhouse gas emissions such as methane or CO2 emissions are without a doubt impacting severely the climate, nothing arrogant about recognizing it, what is arrogant is to purposely ignore the huge impact on this planet environment caused by Men.

What's so bad about CO2? I don't see any issue with it.