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Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-14 23:22:23


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@[AOE] JaiBharat909

I agree that governments should have reserves, and not just mass debt that can't be paid in 100 years. Even though I'm a liberal (nothing to do with economics btw), and pro-social state intervention in many areas, I don't think government should manage it's finances like a teenager that always asks for more money when he's spent everything he had in his wallet.

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Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-14 23:40:28


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https://youtu.be/Rm3d43HLyTI

I'm sure Hillary Clinton watches this video each time before the debates.

The 2nd Democratic nomination debate was simply hillarious.

"Mrs. Hillary Clinton. Why do you recieve so many funds from high corporate wall street banks?"

H. Clinton: "9 11 was bad"

* crowd cheers *
Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-14 23:54:09


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I still don't understand what you mean by "legalize things". What things are you referring to example wise?


Well, there's the big ones like drugs and abortion; lowering punishments for crimes is also part of it (death penalty is un-libertarian in America), but also allowing women to fight in combat roles (come on, this shouldn't even be a debate today - of course they should), regulating carbon outputs (un-libertarian, too, but I support this), requiring businesses to label GMOs (un-libertarian, but I support this), national parks (un-libertarian), and more, but I think you get the gist.

Fiscal conservatism is the economic and political policy that advocates restraint of governmental taxation and expenditures. Fiscal conservatives since the 19th century have argued that debt is a device to corrupt politics; they argue that big spending ruins the morals of the people, and that a national debt creates a dangerous class of speculators. A political strategy employed by conservatives to achieve a smaller government is known as starve the beast. Activist Grover Norquist is a well-known proponent of the strategy and has famously said, "My goal is to cut government in half in twenty-five years, to get it down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub." The argument in favor of balanced budgets is often coupled with a belief that government welfare programs should be narrowly tailored and that tax rates should be low, which implies relatively small government institutions.

This belief in small government combines with fiscal conservatism to produce a broader economic liberalism, which wishes to minimize government intervention in the economy or implement laissez-faire policies. This economic liberalism borrows from two schools of thought: the classical liberals' pragmatism and the libertarian's notion of "rights." The classical liberal maintains that free markets work best, while the libertarian contends that free markets are the only ethical markets.


From what it sounds like, sounds good, and it does sound like the right. It doesn't sound particularly like conserves nor libertarians, but just to the right, of which deregulation is a big part of. Libertarianism wants less other kinds of government spending, too. And Republican candidates just don't really want to do that. Trump is the only one who wants to cut space travel spending, but he wants to build some expensive wall and spend loads continually on border security, which is worse; Cruz and Rubio want to grow military spending and the death penalty, and Kasich wants longer prison sentences and death penalty (which in America, costs even more than imprisonment); and these are just some of these policies.

I agree that governments should have reserves, and not just mass debt that can't be paid in 100 years. Even though I'm a liberal (nothing to do with economics btw), and pro-social state intervention in many areas


How can you be liberal (which has a great deal to do with economy) and not support spending money you don't have? Public spending is spending money you don't have if you're over 100% debt.

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Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 00:03:34


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I'm liberal in moral views. This doesn't influence my views in economy. What does is me leanning towards a social welfare state. You can be libertarian and liberal for instance. Defending capitalism and abortion isn't opposed and yet one is libertarian and the other liberal. If libertarianism and liberalism were the opposed, it wouldn't be that easy to accept both huh?
Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 00:27:55


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You know, just a frain to Americans - why is Clinton disponsible for some small-scale attack on a country that was wrecked into chaos in 2011 (with great support in America)?

Because a) she wrecked t in the first place (like TeamGuns said) and b) she refused to send in aid, despite having ample time to do so
Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 01:46:11


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Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 02:11:32


Жұқтыру
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This doesn't influence my views in economy. What does is me leanning towards a social welfare state.


A social welfare state is a form of economy. It seems like it does, that liberalist is an accurate word to describe you, since you want less government/laws but more public spending/taxes.

You can be libertarian and liberal for instance. Defending capitalism and abortion isn't opposed and yet one is libertarian and the other liberal.


Well, if you defend capitalism, you'll be Libertarian. You are for social democracy, to the left, you want high socialism. If you shield both capitalism and abortion, you'll be libertarian. If you shield capitalism but not abortion, you're conservative. If you shield abortion, but not capitalism, you're liberal. If you shield neither abortion neither capitalism, you're low socialist.

Because a) she wrecked t in the first place (like TeamGuns said) and b) she refused to send in aid, despite having ample time to do so


Ok, more frains:

Obama was president, why isn't it his fault? What is specifically her post that makes her disponsible for that? and b) I mean, logically thinking, why wouldn't she send in aid, despite having ample time to do so? Don't say it's since she's a mad hatter.
Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 02:41:28


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Obama was president, why isn't it his fault? What is specifically her post that makes her disponsible for that?
Oh, Obama isn't innocent when it comes to social and foreign affairs. It's just that this isn't his thread.
Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 03:04:16


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At least Obama isn't a Douche. And I'm not even sure of that
Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 05:16:04

[wolf]japan77
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Clinton is too far central for my liking.
However, I would still take her over anyone else in the field outside Sanders (mostly because going 3rd party is futile, if third parties were actually practical I would support Stein after Sanders)
Generally Clinton supporters are center-left, or people who don't think Sanders will win(that's why you don't really see anyone defending her, as the center-left is dead).
Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 10:47:38


GeneralPE
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"At least Obama isn't a Douche. And I'm not even sure of that"
He is. See his joke after Scalia died.
Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 13:58:51


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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^He didn't even go to his funeral. Or Nancy Reagan's.
Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 15:30:51


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Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 16:08:10


TeamGuns
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@[AOE] JaiBharat909

I don't think they'd want him there lol


@Жұқтыру

I for instance, don't think capitalism is all bad, there's many things I like about it and that are very necessary for human societies. But capitalism for itself is dangerous and must be regulated, in order to prevent crisis and accumulation of wealth for the top.


And a conservative can defend social issues, and a liberal can be strongly libertarian as well

Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 16:10:31


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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I don't think they'd want him there lol

But they wanted Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton there (speaking about Nancy Reagan's funeral)?
Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 16:13:08


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I think it's some tradition where First Ladies go to other First Ladies funerals and not the presidents.
Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 16:13:44


TeamGuns
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Michelle is a first lady as well, and Clinton was a Reagan's couple friend lol
Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 16:34:54


Major General Smedley Butler
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Also, I'm 100% sure that Trump is racist against humans.
Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 16:44:36


Melisandre (the Red Woman)
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@MGSB, are you saying Trumps an ALIEN???
Anti-Clinton meme/trashtalking thread: 2016-03-15 16:45:39


[AOE] JaiBharat909
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With orange skin and that glued on wig...of course!!
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