Election day: 2016-03-16 01:32:29 |
Lordi
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Yeah that's why Cruz ran on ending ethanol subsidies in frickin Iowa where that's political suicide. A stance that he then flip-flopped in, didn't he? But regardless, he's taking big donations from big banks, just like Hillary.
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Election day: 2016-03-16 01:32:54 |
TeamGuns
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Hmmmm, not over on the dem side yet either. Missouri and Illinois might go for Bernie, as rural areas more pro-Bernie, haven't been massivily counted yet compared to cities that are Clinton's strongholds.
Really funny though lol, how can the cities be more pro-Hillary? We'll never know...
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Election day: 2016-03-16 01:41:00 |
TeamGuns
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Just quick update, MO is now being led by bernie. Ill might flip too.
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Election day: 2016-03-16 01:42:52 |
[AOE] JaiBharat909
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A stance that he then flip-flopped in, didn't he? Link me to what you're referring to. But regardless, he's taking big donations from big banks, just like Hillary. 42% came from small donations. There's no way Ted could beat Trump's free media coverage without raising money, doesn't mean he's their puppet. His record confirms that. https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate.php?id=N00033085Oh to someone who said no one is attacking Cruz - $7 million has been spent targeting Cruz.
Edited 3/16/2016 01:43:42
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Election day: 2016-03-16 01:43:37 |
Eklipse
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Cities are pro-Hillary because the cities have more minorities which are (mostly) putty in her hands for some reason.
Bernie, for whatever reason, does a lot better with white voters thus he takes rural counties easier.
Edited 3/16/2016 01:44:12
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Election day: 2016-03-16 01:56:54 |
Lordi
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Link me to what you're referring to. Not really interested in the whole topic, but here's something I found: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/ted-cruz-ethanol-217417
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Election day: 2016-03-16 02:06:43 |
[AOE] JaiBharat909
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So you're saying that he's a flip-flopper for saying he wants the Ethanol Fuel Standard to be ended in 2022 instead of 2020? As long as he ends it, does it really matter the date? Trump wouldn't even say that.
Edited 3/16/2016 02:07:06
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Election day: 2016-03-16 02:14:52 |
TeamGuns
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Trump voters and their solid arguments...
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Election day: 2016-03-16 02:17:18 |
Lordi
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Maybe flip-flopping is too strong, it's something I heard on a topic that doesn't really interest me.
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Election day: 2016-03-16 02:35:46 |
[AOE] JaiBharat909
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According to Politico, Cruz has cut the lead in Missouri to only .2% down from a high of 2.5%. They're separated by less than 2000 votes with only 50% in.
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Election day: 2016-03-16 02:38:23 |
TeamGuns
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Hmmmm, so you argue cruz fliped in a subject based on an article you didn't even read? Shame on you.
Let's talk about flip-floping.
=====War on drugs===== 1990 => “You have to legalize drugs to win that war. You have to take the profit away from these drug czars.” 2016 => Trump said: Colorado’s legalization of marijuana was “bad,” saying that he “feel[s] strongly about that,” and that Colorado has “got a lot of problems going on right now.”
=====Abortion====== 1999 => Trump stated that though he “hate[d] the concept of abortion,” that he was “very pro-choice,” 2015 => Trump states that he is “pro-life,” with exceptions for rape, incest or when the mother’s life is in danger.
=====Taxes===== 1999 => Trump called for a one-time 14.25% tax on individuals and trusts of over $10 million in order to pay off the national debt. 2000 => he indicated that he was opposed to a flat tax. 2011 => Trump indicated support for the Bush Tax Cuts
=====Gun Control===== 2000 => Trump indicated that while he “generally oppose[d]” gun control, he was in favor of bans on assault weapons, waiting periods and background checks. He also criticized Republicans on the topic, as he stated that they “walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions.” 2015 => Trump states that he is staunchly against gun control, that “the Second Amendment is right, not a privilege,” and that he “do[es] not support expanding background checks.”
=====Health Care===== 1999/2000 => Trump expressed a staunch desire for the US to adopt universal healthcare. Trump stated, “If you can’t take care of your sick in the country, forget it, it’s all over. . .So I’m very liberal when it comes to health care. . .I believe in universal health care. I believe in whatever it takes to make people well and better. 2011 => Trump strongly attacked Obamacare.
=====Social Security===== 2000 => Trump favored privatization of Social Security, stating that, “Privatization would be good for all of us. 2011 => Trump spoke out against any modifications of Social Security, saying that “We as a society must also make an ironclad commitment to providing a safety net for those who can’t make one for themselves.
=====Hillary Clinton/Jeb Bush===== Before => Trump has a long history with Hillary Clinton, donating to her campaigns in 2002, 2005, 2006 and 2007, as well as donating a six-digit sum to the Clinton Foundation. Clinton even attended Trump’s 2005 wedding, and Trump once called her a “fantastic Senator.” He had similar praise for Jeb Bush in 2000, saying “He’s exactly the kind of political leader this country needs now and will very much need in the future. . .He’s bright, tough, and principled. I like the Bush family very much. Now => Trump calls Hillary Clinton “the worst Secretary of State in the history of our nation” and says that she would be “a terrible president.” On Jeb Bush, he referred to him as “pathetic” for his support of Common Core, and said that his immigration policy is “baby stuff.” He has also said that in regards to Bush facing Clinton, “Jeb Bush will never take us to the promised land. . .No matter what you do, it’s not going to happen.”
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Election day: 2016-03-16 02:50:33 |
[AOE] JaiBharat909
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But wait TeamGuns its not flip flopping if Trump does it!! It just means he's a smart businessman!! Trump is infallible, like the pope. All hail Trump. xD
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Election day: 2016-03-16 02:53:00 |
Thomas 633
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He's an asshat, but honestly everyone ganging up on him (they do to some extent) actually makes him seem more attractive, and weakens arguments against him.
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Election day: 2016-03-16 02:53:12 |
Melisandre (the Red Woman)
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@TeamGuns, people change opinions. If it were more changes over a shorter period of time (not one change over a decade) I'd agree with you more.
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Election day: 2016-03-16 02:56:22 |
Thomas 633
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Obamacare is ineffective, and ethically right. I have private reasons why I will always support that kind of care.
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Election day: 2016-03-16 02:58:45 |
TeamGuns
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@Darth Darth Jinks
Dude, you may change of opinion. You can find religion in one issue over a decade, but changing that much? He went from a man that could be elected and cheered by Bernie supporters, to a man cheered by Hitler's. That's how much he changed.
@Genghis
90s Trump disagree with you!
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Election day: 2016-03-16 02:59:23 |
[AOE] JaiBharat909
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@TeamGuns, people change opinions. If it were more changes over a shorter period of time (not one change over a decade) I'd agree with you more.
1) Trump was a Democrat until 1987 2) Became a Republican from 1987 to 1999 3) Joined the Reform Party from 1999 to 2001 4) Was a Democrat again from 2001 to 2009 5) Joined the Republicans again from 2009 to 2011 6) Then became an Independent from 2011 to 2012 7) Joined the Republicans for the third time in 2012
He's switched 7 times. He's changed 7 times, and only as recently as 2011.
If you want a chameleon for president, Trump is your guy. Who knows maybe he'll be the first president to change his party affiliation while in office!!
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Election day: 2016-03-16 03:03:09 |
Thomas 633
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10/10 would watch Trump fire Congress one by one. After making them do a challenge involving teamwork and buisness skills.
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Election day: 2016-03-16 03:05:19 |
Жұқтыру
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If you want a chameleon for president, Trump is your guy. If Trump could change his skinhue...yes, he will get a blackskin voter!
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