Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 17:49:09 |
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The BLM group has not lynched any whites has it? They don't state that blacks are racially superior, do they? Also , which countries will defeat ISIS? Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Syria, Kurdistan, etc. Right now Syria is retaking land from ISIS, as is Iraq. You want a ground invasion which will pull us into a lengthy and unnecessary guerilla war when it's clear that ISIS is being defeated already.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 18:24:42 |
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Se your no-go zones in paris proved wrong by french people. So a French TV show with an agenda goes to these areas to seek proof for what they wanted to hear. Why didn't they interview the police, especially the ones with experience of violence? Ah, but that would have invalidated their narrative. I've read that you accept the idea that everything trump says it's false because it raises awareness. That's totally stupid and just proves that trump supporters will accept any bullshit he says. But no problem, I'll pray for your brains. So you read 'between the lines', ie found what you wanted to find. Sadly, you criticize Trump for bending the truth, but you do the exact same thing you blame Trump for. What I actually said was that it's OK if he uses hyperbolic language. It's still true that the government is making unemployment statistics look much better than they actually are. If it takes hyperbolic language to draw attention to that, then so be it. That's hardly a statistics problem my point here, but the fact that christian terrorism isn't really covered by the media, while muslim are, and thus even though the first ones kill more. Fine, if you want to change the subject, go ahead. I understand that maths can be difficult. Let me tell you a secret: Islamic terrorism is more prevalent in Islamic countries than Christian terrorism. Why isn't anybody talking about this!? The BLM group has not lynched any whites has it? BLM just recently hospitalized KKK members that were staging a legal, previously announced protest. While I strongly dislike the KKK, that doesn't mean BLM can go and maim or kill them for holding stupid views. They don't state that blacks are racially superior, do they? Their rhetoric is different from the KKK but their goal is the same: racial supremacy. While the KKK talks about white superiority, BLM talks about retribution and racism to justify the same ends.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 18:44:28 |
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So a French TV show with an agenda goes to these areas to seek proof for what they wanted to hear. Why didn't they interview the police, especially the ones with experience of violence? Ah, but that would have invalidated their narrative. What part of FRENCH PEOPLE, didn't you read? It's people that live in your dangerous no-go zones that say it's bullshit. That French TV is btw a satiric thing, they make jokes of the right and the left, the joke on this day was America and FoxNews. So you read 'between the lines', ie found what you wanted to find. Sadly, you criticize Trump for bending the truth, but you do the exact same thing you blame Trump for. Trump isn't saying the truth. And I haven't said anything false, those no-go zones don't exist, it's american right wing propaganda, sadly you can't see it. It's not ok to use hyperbolic languages lol, it's just creating false statements. If I say now that most christians are terrorists, it's an hyperbole too, it doesn't make the statement true. Arguing that it does it's just being stupid. Fine, if you want to change the subject, go ahead. I understand that maths can be difficult.
Let me tell you a secret: Islamic terrorism is more prevalent in Islamic countries than Christian terrorism. Why isn't anybody talking about this!? I'm good with maths, very good actually, and I can't argue that there isn't more prevalence on the subject about statistics behind terrorist attacks. But you fail to see the real point, muslim terrorism is a consequence of western interventionism in the middle east as well as minorities problems in the west. Christians also suffer in the middle east, but they can always run to the West, whereas the opposit isn't true. Btw, blowing yourself up in Saudi Arabia to kill muslims in order to protest against muslim terrorism is just a pointless thing to do, as it's not like Saudi Arabia has colonized and invaded your country many times over the centuries. Btw, stating that BLM defends racial supremacy, is the same thing as saying feminists defend women supremacy and that the LGBT community defends gay supremacy. It's just conspiracy theories that are very dumb.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 19:04:36 |
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feminists defend women supremacy
Some actually do though. These are the same feminists that say all women should vote for Hillary Clinton because she has female genetalia.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 19:26:19 |
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What part of FRENCH PEOPLE, didn't you read? Again, your weakness with maths and logic is showing, I'm afraid. Hint: Did they interview THE French people or SOME French people? If I say now that most christians are terrorists, it's an hyperbole too, it doesn't make the statement true. Arguing that it does it's just being stupid. There is no point to be made with that hyperbole. Christians and atheists per capita do not have a big problem with gays, equality, human rights etc, it's Muslims that do. It would be a meaningless statement. muslim terrorism is a consequence of western interventionism in the middle east This is very important to understand: western meddling in the Middle East has certainly added fuel to the fire, but the fire was there already. Muslims in Germany, France, Britain, and Sweden are quite radical as well, and they didn't have their country invaded. The US doesn't occupy Indonesia either, yet there is a lot of Muslim radicalism. Btw, stating that BLM defends racial supremacy, is the same thing as saying feminists defend women supremacy and that the LGBT community defends gay supremacy. It's just conspiracy theories that are very dumb. A lot of feminists do exactly that. They want to #KillAllMen, make women get more pay for the same work, paint all men as rapists (rape culture) and so on. And of course, elect Hillary because vagina. Same goes for a part of the LGBT community, especially the one that has close ties to feminism.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 20:15:53 |
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The Lord is contradicting himself all the time, he says he is not biased not watching the media (like Trump) nonetheless he believes in Foxnews bullshit. I went 2 times in Paris recently, I slept in Paris suburbs visiting my family, I can assure you there is no places in France where the rule of law and police aren't respected.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 20:20:33 |
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I also have one cousin working for police in Paris, she knows better than everyone else how the situation is, some suburbs are dangerous nonetheless Police is everywhere and these "no go zones" invented by Foxnews, it's pure sensationalism and such places do not exist.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 20:50:57 |
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Almost all news is sensationalism.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 20:56:16 |
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Yea, actually this thing was really laughed at in many national televisions. About feminism, you're wrong The Lord. Feminism stands for equality between men and women, that's the definition of the movement actually. The idea that women are superior to men it's called Misandry, it's often misinterpreted as feminism, but it's not. It's just the same relation of salafism to islamism and Klu Klux Klan to christianism. You fail to see this and say a lot of crap about a movement you clearly know nothing about. western meddling in the Middle East has certainly added fuel to the fire, but the fire was there already. Untrue, before 1800 and the start of colonialism by european countries of the region, radical Islam wasn't even close to be as widespread as today. In terms of tolerance, Christianism has been far worse since it's creation then Islamism. #Inquisition #Crusades #NativeAmericanMassacres #ForcedConversions #LotOfOtherThings. PS: Those feminists that want to elect Hillary to be a president just because she's a women, are stupid too. Her record is terrible on the defense of women rights, and I doubt a Clinton's administration would really help to ease those problems, just like Obama's didn't fixed the racism problem in america.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 21:02:08 |
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I would read this article: http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/07/anti-semitism-france-hostage-hyper-cacher-kosher-marketIt talks about how the growth of anti-Semitism in France is linked directly to the inability of the police and other security agencies to control the growing extremism of Arab and Islamic banlieues.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 21:11:05 |
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This is not the work of police but education here Jai, and again do you honestly believe vanityfair.com is a reliable source? You are the first to blame the media, read scholar works and trustworthy socioeconomic reviews instead of this joke of magazine dealing with personalities and fashion that knows nothing about the situation.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 21:20:36 |
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Police and security agencies shouldn't be the ones in charge of controlling extremism and anti-semitism. It's degrading to say it's their fault, they do their best to avoid terrorist attacks, but you can't blame those on them.
The growth of extremism in France is really linked to stupid gvnt policies for more then 30 years. Anti-semitism is however not a problem France created, but Israel and their policies, the idea that it's just a problem in France is false. Even to say there's a problem of safety there isn't really right, the last OCDE report said that in France there was 840 homicides (a rate of 1.2 for 100k). In the us it's 13k+ for a rate of 4.2
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 21:23:19 |
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@Angry Koala
Americans often believe the solution for extremism is to kill extremists and have every person on the country have a gun. Little do they know that killing doesn't reduce extremists, often you'll have more, and that universal gun ownership just gives every extremist a way to kill people.
Spending in education is way cheaper then paying for militarization.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 21:24:12 |
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Antisemitism is an inappropriate word as it does not deal only with the Jewish people but also Arabic people or Arabized people.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 21:25:48 |
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Anti-semitism is however not a problem France created, but Israel and their policies AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!111one So... if hatred and violence against Jews is justified because of Israeli politics, the surely, hatred and violence against Muslims is justified because of ISIS, Taliban, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 22:04:52 |
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these "no go zones" invented by Foxnews No, not Fox News. The New York Times. Even if Fox is the great Satan for you, it is not responsible for all evil. "An early usage of the term regarding Europe was in a 2002 opinion piece by David Ignatius in The New York Times, where he wrote about France, "Arab gangs regularly vandalize synagogues here, the North African suburbs have become no-go zones at night, and the French continue to shrug their shoulders" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-go_area#FranceThe idea that women are superior to men it's called Misandry, it's often misinterpreted as feminism I wonder why that happens so often... Christianism has been far worse since it's creation then Islamism What does it matter what Christianity has been in the past? It's not like that in 2016. Are we going to hold Islam to a medieval Christian standard now and be happy with it?
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 22:22:53 |
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Never said that anti-semitism was justified lol, you try do say something that isn't true. I just say that anti-semitism is very much Israel's fault, just like muslim extremism is the west's and that islamophobia is terrorists fault. Hating anyone because of their religion is a poor and sad thought. And it doesn't matter who's idea the no-go zones areas are, it's false, and it was spreaded by foxnews last year. I'm pretty sure they apologized for that as a matter of fact. What does it matter what Christianity has been in the past? It's not like that in 2016. Are we going to hold Islam to a medieval Christian standard now and be happy with it? I'm just saying that it's stupid to say Islam is a problematic religion, when pretty much all big religions have or had extremist problems.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 22:59:33 |
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I'm just saying that it's stupid to say Islam is a problematic religion, when pretty much all big religions have or had extremist problems. I don't think Islam is inherently worse than other religions, but the way it is currently interpreted by its leaders is a big problem. The fact is that adherents of Islam, on average, hold very backwards views about gays, equality, universal human rights and so on. This is a problem and it needs to change. We need to bring adherents of Islam away from the Middle Ages to the 21st century. Christianity has historically had its problems, but it doesn't have those problems anymore.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 23:19:56 |
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The truth is that Western influence just made the opposit lol... Islam was a very peaceful religion until we messed up the region for more then 200 years. Every american intervention just made the problem worse. It's not our business to try and fix religions just because we think there's a problem. 99%+ of Muslims are peaceful, bombing places just gives fuel to extremism.
About "adherents of Islam, on average, hold very backwards views about gays, equality, universal human rights and so on", just watch a GOP debate and you might see that it's not just in Arabia that you find those ideas. I have many muslim friends, none has one of these problems, I assure you.
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Trump tells it like it is!: 2016-03-25 23:55:44 |
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This is not the work of police but education here Jai, and again do you honestly believe vanityfair.com is a reliable source? You are the first to blame the media, read scholar works and trustworthy socioeconomic reviews instead of this joke of magazine dealing with personalities and fashion that knows nothing about the situation.
This comment actually makes me wonder if you read the article because if you did then you would note its very well written. Its not meant as a political piece, its meant as a social piece which is very much up the wheelhouse of what vanity fair writes about.
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