Specially in our modern times

In our modern times governments engaging in democide have killed 260 million people. If you include casualties in war , the number jumps to 350 million. Sorry I don't want police going door to door killing minorities because of some tripe about them being a threat to the country's integrity. I don't want the government to be intervening overseas constantly and killing thousands. The neutering of the military puts interventionism on standstill.

It would neuter the police and the government abuse of authority problems, but it would create others you might not be able to solve later.

Plus, I'd say the biggest threat to the US and your democray isn't the police or the government, but corporations and climate change. The first ones because they buy your government to defend their interests, and the second one because we're all screwed anyway if we destroy our planet.

To the 2nd msg: Major, the problem on those matters isn't on government, but on the people who run it. Go see, idk Sweden. It has a police, a military, politicians, and they haven't killed minorities or entered stupid wars over the years. They didn't needed a militia to sto p that.

I do however agree that the politicians who control the army and the police need to be closely watched to avoid them doing iresponsible things that were done over the years in america.

Corporations don't buy the government, the government buys the corporations.

Fox News: propaganda
CNN: propaganda
MSNBC: propaganda
Food corporations: Mass produced foodstuffs to keep the population up for a big army
Energy corporations: lots of energy that hurts nature , but provides for the US

In exchange, the US doesn't sink their teeth into them.

You're giving every part of the political spectrum an arm of violence, many of which have differing ideas and plans. Some groups might be triggered by a black person being convicted, while others might be triggered by police brutally arresting someone. Whatever the pretense is, you've given a Cassius Belli for these groups to legally be able to cause mayhem.
"If local police turn a blind eye to discrimination based on race, gender, religious belief, sexual orientation, or political belief that turns violent in anyway besides throwing fruit or vegetables , local militia can intervene on behalf of the party being discriminated against."
Wouldn't this just cause a riot?
Example:
Policeman beats Person A.
Group 1 sides with Person A, so they attack police.
Police and Group 1 fight.
While fight drags on, many come out to show support for both sides in other parts of town. As the group sees that the protesters are acting against human rights, they call for their group to attack.
Clashes begin thought town.
Lotting begins of enemy shops, houses etc.
At the end of the riot, the town is left in chaos.

“Republicans originally thought that Fox worked for us and now we’re discovering we work for Fox.”
David Frum, former speechwriter for George W. Bush
Also, if the govt. buys the corporations, then why is there lobbying?

Sweden got wrecked economically by socialism, doesn't have sizable minorities and can't fight any of it's neighbors.

1815: Well that was painful and dangerous, we'll be neutral from now on
1905: Well, we don't really have the resources to beat off Norway and it might attract stronger countries to get involved, go on Norway, be free
1914: Well, I knew it would happen again , time to sit around, can't beat any of them
1939: Same as 1914, except its time to tap Prussia's phone
1945: Too weak, don't want fight the Soviets or Americans
2016: What can we even do at this point? America owns Europe.

Countries do things when they can, unless they are limited by either the people or their own inherent weakness. America is strong, it is time to limit it via the people.

The militia in your scenario would practically dominate the police from the onset, the police are beaten , most surrender or run away and peace comes back. The people protest, show support for the police, it's their right to.

Also, if the govt. buys the corporations, then why is there lobbying?

Politicians buying each other to their cause.

President Benjamin Censored!

US Government Budget Today:

Pensions 1.2 Trillion
Health Care 1.5 Trillion
Education 1 Trillion
Defense 831 Billion
Welfare 456 Billion
Protection 288 Billion
Transportation 297 Billion
General Government 181 Billion
Other Spending 531 Billion
Interest 351 Billion

Federal Tax Income 3.25 Trillion
Total Spending 6.725 Trillion
Export Income 2.25 Trillion
Gross -1.225 Trillion

Altered Budget:

Pensions 1 Trillion - Offer to people who were employed for 30 or more years.
Health Care 600 Billion - Privitize, little/no subsidies.
Education 150 Million - States should control this, destroy department of education. The remaining budget should be for paying existing workers/designing non-required tests.
Defense 500 Billion - Reduce nuclear arsenal to 250 Warheads (can destroy the whole world anyways), promote militias, reduce police force/national army.
Welfare 150 Billion - Give 10,000$ a year to the very poor - bottom 5%
Protection 300 Billion - this is a fine number, reduce a bit
Transportation 325 Billion - Reduce/Eliminate uses for cars with major buses/trains/plane innovation
Infrastructure 250 Billion - Build cities like the Gulf States, and crazy new innovative constructions.
General Government 75 Billion - Pay the workers much much less.
Other Spending 250 Billion - Most of this is pointless spending or imports, we can be more self-sufficient.
War on Drugs Revamp 100 Billion - Eliminate DEA, use Switzerland method.

Federal Tax Income 2.45 Trillion
Total Spending 3.45 Trillion
Export Income 2.25 Trillion
Gross 1.15 Trillion

New tax system:

Under $20,000 a year/person over 18 - 2% tax rate
$20,000-$50,000 a year/person over 18 - 5% tax rate
$50,000-$100,000 a year/person over 18 - 10% tax rate
Over $100,000 a year/person over 18 - 15% tax rate

Unemployment would plummet to about 2%, with about 196,000,000 Americans working to make an average of about 100,000$ a year.

"Executive Orders":

Federal Reserve: Audit by congress, raise interest rate to 1%

Completely get rid of corporate subsidies for large businesses (If you are in S&P 500, you don't deserve money from the government).

Maybe instead of giving welfare, you should allow people to work jobs that nobody wants to do in exchange for a subsidy of like 10k a year bonus.

GMO labeling is mandatory, people MUST know what is in their food, audit the USDA & FDA by congress.

Audit/Eliminate the IRS, have the Secretary of the Treasury handle it.

Illegal immigrants with high skills must get a high skilled job or leave, low skilled illegals must get a low skilled job or leave. That would reduce the amount of
people to deport by about 25%, increase jobs by about 3-4 Million.

Leave TPP, it hurts US Freedom and takes our jobs elsewhere.

20% Tax on all American-Based companies moving outside of the border - definitely no subsidies to them, unless they move back in.

DEA eliminated, plan to decarcinate 750,000 criminals and send them through rehab, tear down jails, build up Rehab clinics with free drugs, pay attention to getting
better instead of isolation. For non-violent drug related crimes, force to a clinic instead of a jail.

Edited 3/28/2016 03:10:17

Boy make your own thread.

I'm surprised nobody brought this up yet...

But what the heck are we going to do with 1.5 MILLION unemployed ex-soldiers?

Firing squad, they're thoughtcriminals!









Gotcha

There's lots of manual labor type jobs due to the college bubble, many of the veterans could go to schools and get trained to be in those fields (we brainwashed them, only right to give them a life). And it wouldn't happen overnight, it'd take time to implement such a change. Give the military a target of scaling down and some time to do so (a decade maybe), so it's not as much of a shock.

But what the heck are we going to do with 1.5 MILLION unemployed ex-soldiers?

Let those scum die. We're not going to respect psycopathic killers. Frankly it's disgusting how much soldiers are respected everywhere, and I'd like more not to pay folk for killing folk. Now, I'd be kinder if this was an antigeneven draft, but there isn't in America, so yeah, let them rot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_A27rIOoco

1. Cut the budget by 90%

Cut it by more, there is a mad amount being spent.

2. Dismantle half of the nuclear arsenal, keep it run by the old software/hardware, but keep it in good condition.

There's not much public infos on that, but what we do know, is that the nuclear weapon system in America is dangerously outdated. Get it up to date.

3. There is about 2 million in the Armed Forces. Cut that by 1.5 million.

Rid the military altogether, just a shore guard+rescue team.

7. Give non-discriminatory militias artillery ,armored personnel carriers, helicopters and reconnaissance planes.

No. You know, I did some thinking. Government is just an alliance of businesses. In total anarchy, government would reform as corporations ally each other, and eliminate the rest, violently. But anyhow, if government does these bad things, why wouldn't folk?

8. Militias can only buy equipment if 70% of their members have a weapon that can fire standard NATO rounds

Not necessarily for or against, but why?

13. In the case of invasion, the military can make drafts of physically capable males and females from the age of 18 to 45.

Heck no, false flag exploitability there.

Altered Budget:

Pensions 83% - Offer to people who were employed for 30 or more years.
Health Care 40% - Privitize, little/no subsidies.
Education 15% - States should control this, destroy department of education. The remaining budget should be for paying existing workers/designing non-required tests.
Defence 60% - Reduce nuclear arsenal to 250 Warheads (can destroy the whole world anyways), promote militias, reduce police force/national army.
Welfare 33% - Give 10,000$ a year to the very poor - bottom 5%
Protection 104% - this is a fine number, reduce a bit
Transportation 101% Billion - Reduce/Eliminate uses for cars with major buses/trains/plane innovation
General Government 41% - Pay the workers much much less.
Other Spending 47% - Most of this is pointless spending or imports, we can be more self-sufficient.
War on Drugs Revamp 100 Billion - Eliminate DEA, use Switzerland method.

Rid pensions altogether, though should be phased out, not anything sudden. 0%.
Have free care for life-threatening settings, otherwise government should not be involved. Also, government should heavily regulate selling and making of antibiot, as these help make new superbugs. So, what is that, 80% or something? I've no idea what that'd cost. ??%
Teaching, nowadays, everyone has freedom to learn through self-learning. Internet. If you don't have internet, go to a bookloaner. But anyhow, make schools by choice for children (I'd be most popular president ever), as a child who doesn't want to learn, won't and will waste money. Anyhow, build an organised system based on merit and will, for middle-qualified learning (electrician, nurse), and for higher-level learning (physician, pharmacist). I'd assume this'd cost less, but again, ??%
Defence, yeah, America's good on spending there for 40 years. Sell some tanks if low, oh wait...0%.
Welfare, totally rid. Promotes not getting a job. Noone will die on the streets, healthcare will take care of that. 0%.
Not sure what protection is, but if it's anything like army, rid it, too. ??%
Transportation, eh, not qualified to answer for America, though it doesn't seem to me awful. Keep as is, 100%.
Pay the politicians far less? I agree. 10% should do.
Other spending, it doesn't seem like you nor me have researched. Keep as is. 100%.

So, with all that taken into account, and all ??% set to 150 (pretty liberal), that amounts to total:

5 thousand billion (28% tax rate).

Let those scum die. We're not going to respect psycopathic killers. Frankly it's disgusting how much soldiers are respected everywhere, and I'd like more not to pay folk for killing folk. Now, I'd be kinder if this was an antigeneven draft, but there isn't in America, so yeah, let them rot.

What the everliving hell? So someone who is told from day one of their lives that America is great, that America defends and is the protecter of liberty, that goes through a government controlled school system, and is broken and brainwashed by the military, deserves to die of starvation? Most military personnel are janitors and things like that, that might be cooperation with the government and enabling it, but so is paying taxes. Letting then die on the streets would be the ultimate sin, they were pretty much fed one perspective their entire lives and conditioned into being subservient to the government, and after we have no use of their services, you propose their deaths? What the fuck

There's not much public infos on that, but what we do know, is that the nuclear weapon system in America is dangerously outdated. Get it up to date.

Getting it up to date makes it extremely vulnerable to hackers and glitches, very dangerous.

But anyhow, if government does these bad things, why wouldn't folk?

A militia does not have the ability to sustain a military campaign overseas.

Not necessarily for or against, but why?

In a actual invasion, we would need to make sure we're supplying people ammunition they can use. The NATO round is used a lot, we have a lot of it, and it would be pretty easy to get militia to use it.

Heck no, false flag exploitability there.

I seriously doubt the government could stage a actual invasion of the US by either Mexico or Canada without cooperation from those two, and a sizable military.

Lol smed is your name in the thread title an allusion to animal farm?

Maybe :3

What about the oppression against the natives major? You talk about the Black Panthers but nothing about the most oppressed group of people? Let them achieve independence they would be definitely better out of this sh*t, redneck militias and then a new Indian war will start all over again.