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Mock election, green/socialist party: 2016-04-22 01:01:43


Major General Smedley Butler
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we want no Gestapo or secret police. The FBI is tending in that direction. They are dabbling in my sex-life and threatening blackmail. J. Edgar Hoover would give his right eye to peep through my bedroom window over and over, and all congressmen and senators are afraid of him


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/COINTELPRO

Anti-non-mainstream-political-group program by the FBI.
Mock election, green/socialist party: 2016-04-22 01:24:34


DomCobb
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Few more policies:
*Ratify Geneva Conventions and UN basic human rights convention.
*Invade ISIS-held territory if with a UN coalition and pre-ISIS governments are respected. Have a permanent garrison in Iraq after war in order to ensure stability.
Mock election, green/socialist party: 2016-04-22 01:52:41


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I see the socialists want to continue Bush's crusade against Gog and Magog.

Folk of the world! Do not fall to the reds! They will take your money and throw you to war at a moments notice to "maintain stability". But the only thing to come to the world from this is continued war , death, and imperialism. The government sent us to Iraq, Afghanistan, Serbia, Somalia, Grenada, Vietnam , Cuba, Korea, Haiti, Nicuragua, Honduras and the Philippines. These are only a fraction of the countries the warmongers sent folk to , to rob and pillage. Now they want to send folk to Syria. Will this be the last time like they say? No, it will just be another chain in violent attack after violent attack. Free yourselves this November, and vote libertarian!
Mock election, green/socialist party: 2016-04-22 02:48:35


Жұқтыру
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Invade ISIS-held territory if with a UN coalition and pre-ISIS governments are respected. Have a permanent garrison in Iraq after war in order to ensure stability.


Mm, be sceptic of the UN. If China, America, Russia, Britain, and France agree on something, that doesn't mean it's an universal foe, it just means a foe that these 5 governments all hate.
Mock election, green/socialist party: 2016-04-22 18:44:57


#The Prussian Job-Oh yeah, baby...
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Yeah I run for it, Falcon Guy. I will back you up.

Also, how is Leia doin´ and is your family all fine?
Mock election, green/socialist party: 2016-04-22 18:49:06


#The Prussian Job-Oh yeah, baby...
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UN is too facist, to dictating. Our party should not support the UN.

I prefer to use Russia to crush ISIS/ISIL.
And then USA may step in to exterminate Assad, but right now he still is necessary.
He is a key figure. If he falls, the ISIS will be able to conquer all of Syria.
And then we´ll have fun.
Mock election, green/socialist party: 2016-04-22 21:05:39


DomCobb
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I prefer to use Russia to crush ISIS/ISIL.
And then USA may step in to exterminate Assad, but right now he still is necessary.
He is a key figure. If he falls, the ISIS will be able to conquer all of Syria.
And then we´ll have fun.

With a UN coalition, a defeat of ISIS would be quicker in most cases and would improve relations with them as we would have helped fight a common enemy.
We shouldn't assasinate Assad, before or after the defeat of ISIS. Syria is still in a civil war, and removing the longstanding government wouldn't help in creating a better future for the Middle East. We need to diversify investment in the Middle East in order to bring economic stability and less reliance on oil in order to lower tensions among the region (although there would be some tensions with Israel).
Mock election, green/socialist party: 2016-04-22 21:13:08


#The Prussian Job-Oh yeah, baby...
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Yes, as I said, totally my opinion, Assad shouldn´t get removed. We need him until all this civil war and ISIS is defeated, I know, i was just saying that the USA might interfere there.
Mock election, green/socialist party: 2016-04-23 03:35:22


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With a UN coalition, a defeat of ISIS would be quicker in most cases and would improve relations with them as we would have helped fight a common enemy.


Yeah, do what the UN wants, but wars must be far more justified than they are today, even if the UN declared war on Mashriq, I do not think it would be justified either way.

We need to diversify investment in the Middle East in order to bring economic stability and less reliance on oil in order to lower tensions among the region (although there would be some tensions with Israel).


No, "We" need to get out of there, that's not our problem, and you're just burdening American denizens to make the setting even worse there. A government should be a stewardship, not a militarist overlord.

Japan had the same rhetor in the 1930s, in the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere, to help out their "friends" in China and elsewhere.
Mock election, green/socialist party: 2016-04-23 16:13:09


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Final Vote:
TheFalconGuy: 3
Xapy: 1

If no one else will vote, I will take the nomination as party candidate.
Xapy will be my vice.

We should talk about official party policies...
Mock election, green/socialist party: 2016-04-23 21:49:10


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*Support a unified Israel with an autonomous Palestine
*use drones with approval from nation in question
*let everybody work, no work visas
*Take private land if a) not in use, but still owned b) person agrees and gets paid with profit.
*Limit FBI spying on individuals unless a warrant is issued.
*Make standards stricter for more intelligent. But, it isn't just the standards at fault. Our culture less honor-based than Japan, and catching up to them would be a difficult task,
*dont make companies have employment quotas, just employ the most qualified
*Stop companies and unions from donating to any political organization since they are not people
*make companies serve anyone
*limit legal suing powers, everybodys suing everybody for ridiculous things and the only people who are winning from this are lawyers
*Limit space program to aiding private programs and for research for long distance travel.
*Make Gay marriages legal.
*Remove the death penalty, except in horrific cases (3rd degree murder and terrorism) where evidence is clear.
*implement a carbon tax (tony abbot, removing the carbon tax in Australia)
*No photo ID for voting (Just use a valid driver's license...)
*Give welfare to those looking for work, in a work program or disabled
*legalise most drugs and provide aid to those on drugs
*Help in rebuilding process of middle east and try to mitigate tensions between Israel and Arab states.
*Legalize fracking if far enough away from a water source in use
*Pro-life, except in cases of rape and incest or harm to mother. Otherwise, put child in adpotion center.
*take references to god out of american legal stuff, 17% of america isnt christian
*Make it easier for legal immigrants to go into country but keep an eye on southern border
*no torture
*decrease military spending by drastically cutting profits from private projects
*no gerrymandering
*Keep Obamacare and move to single-payer system
*Remove Electoral College and use alternative vote
*Include limits on antibiotics produced by companies and limits on purchases for certain corporations. Increase funding in medicine
*End War on Drugs
*Ban assault rifles
*Slash college costs

We need to work on party policy. Juq, put your recommendations down below.
Mock election, green/socialist party: 2016-04-23 23:48:52


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*Support a unified Israel with an autonomous Palestine


Fully no. Even Israel hates America, America just needs to get the milit out of the Middle East as soon as it can.

*use drones with approval from nation in question


Well, I'm not for totally ridding war or its tools, but I am for greatly greatly lowering how its applied, so great that I can't think of a just war in the last 100 years. War should not even be a regular politic debate: it's just killing folk for fun and a disgusting masturbation of governments

Also, in the rare case that war is needed, then no permissions needed (nor given).

*Take private land if a) not in use, but still owned


Government has no right to take your stuff, ever. Doesn't matter if you don't wield it, you've a right to it, so the government can faff off. Folk over government.

Also, don't buy private stuff unless there's a really good ground, don't just ask everyone to sell their houses to the government. That's a moneywaste.

*Limit FBI spying on individuals unless a warrant is issued.


No, that's not enough. The FBI, CIA, and NSA are limitless and secretive, as all organisations. Heck, torture was internationally banned, but just about every intelligence agency about the world still wields it. Ban all 3 organisations (and like ones). Don't be Mullerian, this is no better.

*Make standards stricter for more intelligent.


That's not very specific, but American teaching system is very good, ahead of most countries, so no real reformation or improvement is needed.

*Stop companies and unions from donating to any political organization since they are not people


Well, good thought, but you can't stop them.

*make companies serve anyone


Heck, no. It's not a right that you get what you want all the time, it's a right that you sell/give your service to whomever and however you want.

*limit legal suing powers, everybodys suing everybody for ridiculous things and the only people who are winning from this are lawyers


NO. Why does everyone support this so much? This is ridiculous. A fellow, if they believe they have been wronged, has the right to sue. NO MATTER WHAT. And if the court finds him to be a timewaste/the case is silly, they'll fine him for that. But banning suing powers? Put that nonsense in the grave.

*Limit space program to aiding private programs and for research for long distance travel.


Frankly, just abolish NASA, but this is acceptable, too, as long as it's not too costly.

*Make Gay marriages legal.


No, the government shouldn't just dance their arse on all faiths and force them to do something that their faith bans. That's the gay atheist's answer. Just end government involvement in marriage altogether. No tax changes, no government (but maybe church) legalities behind it, a marriage would just be an informal recognition of one or more folk. You can marry your mouse, or 500 folk, or your kilosexes, but it'd be silly of you.

*Remove the death penalty, except in horrific cases (3rd degree murder and terrorism) where evidence is clear.


Furthermore, don't give folk the "humane" death of pills and dying in their sleep. They did something very inhumane, and if they are clearly not able to be reknacked, then they ought be just shot in the head with a cheap revolver. It's cheaper, and does it just as well.

*implement a carbon tax


I'd be for this, but this seems very hard to measure, so no.

*No photo ID for voting (Just use a valid driver's license...)


Stop rigging in any way you can. I know most the politicians in America who are for this are just wielding this so that the poorest folk (who hate them) won't can vote, but it still leaves the vote vulnerable to outside rigging, and that's bad.

Some unique identification is needed.

*legalise most drugs


All. Legalise suicide. Legalise freedom.

*Help in rebuilding process of middle east and try to mitigate tensions between Israel and Arab states.


No, America has done enough in "rebuilding". If you really are bloodthirsty, go invade Eritrea. An American dictatorship will still probably be better than the now one.

*Pro-life, except in cases of rape and incest or harm to mother. Otherwise, put child in adpotion center.


No. The government should not mandate a woman either go through the pain of her life, or be permanently scarred about the belly. Also, what is this bias against incest? I'm not for, but some are. If gay marriage is legal in America, then so should incest marriage, too. And no grounds that incests can get abortions, but normal can't.

*take references to god out of american legal stuff, 17% of america isnt christian


Yeah, but don't spend much money doing it. Just phase it out, but don't rechisel buildings and stuff like that. Don't do it in the future, but don't take out any references.

*Make it easier for legal immigrants to go into country but keep an eye on southern border


OPEN BORDERS. Seriously, the most scary thing for Republicans and, whether they like to admit it or not, even the most radic Democrats. Immigrants bring far more good than bad.

Don't think about what's best for your country, and focus on your country winning. Focus on humanity winning, and getting better.

*decrease military spending by drastically cutting profits from private projects


I don't know what this means, but yeah, definitely cut spending "drastically".

*no gerrymandering


Yeah, and disband the American Senate. It's very undemocratic, and a resultat of arbitrary gerrymandering that gives Saipanlanders thousands times more voting power than Californians.

*Include limits on antibiotics produced by companies and limits on purchases for certain corporations. Increase funding in medicine


Nn, I'm for more government stewardship in medicine, and getting basic healthcare for everyone, but maybe high price fixing of antibiots and like tech instead. Also, bully the pharamaceutic businesses, obsessively make sure that they don't devalue human life just to sell their products.

*Ban assault rifles


In America, automatic weapons are already universally banned. Frankly, legalise automatic weapons and assault rifles, as gun bans consistently are totally ineffective (slightly growing homicide rates, actually), but do put a few checks down to buy a gun, nothing too extreme, but has this fellow killed someone in the past? has this been reknacked?

*Slash college costs


Nah, don't make college costs the same, but base it on marks and merit. Make sure there's a profit on average, but the top-marking students shouldn't have to pay anything, while the bottom-marking have to pay twice what the middle-marking pay. Also, this only applies to federal schools, private schools can do whatever they want.
Mock election, green/socialist party: 2016-04-24 00:12:29


Major General Smedley Butler
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I hope you folk win so the economy can collapse and the government gets weaker.
Mock election, green/socialist party: 2016-04-24 02:07:17


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i hope u get shot since the cops arent there to protect u

i hope ur house gets burned on fire and the private fire company charges u 2000 dollars to clean it up

Edited 4/24/2016 02:07:50
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