America is way too diverse to peg under single name. For example:

15.2% of americans are germans
10.8% of americans are irish
8.7% of americans are english
7.2% of americans are "american"
5.6% of americans are italian
4.0% of americans are french
3.2% of americans are polish
1.7% of americans are scottish
1.6% of americans are dutch
1.6% of americans are norwegian
1.4% or americans are swedish

Gods, Americans are just'bout the only folk who base diversity on ancestry and skinhue. America is roughly 80% English ethnicity, 15% Spanish, and 5% other.

Brazil is also incredibly diverse but manages to give itself a name. Mexico less so but still.

Gods, Americans are just'bout the only folk who base diversity on ancestry and skinhue. America is roughly 80% English ethnicity, 15% Spanish, and 5% other.

No, america is around 8% english ancestry, and around 0% spanish ancestry. Where are you getting your numbers from?

Brazil is also incredibly diverse but manages to give itself a name. Mexico less so but still.

Brazil is pretty much 50/50 split betwen mixed ancestry and white people with areound 1% others, and the white poeple pretty much break down as Italian, Portuguese, and germans.

So what you have is:

Portuguese
italian
german
any of the above mixed with native

Not exactly diverse in the context of america.

EDIT: There are also around 8% blacks

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You never know Ox, they might be those filthy English pretending to be Scottish who got fed up with haggis and kilts.

1.7% of America are evil defectors ;)

Just an FYI, this number, 5.47 million scottish folks in america, is more than the number of scottish people in scotland, 5.29 million.

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america is around 8% english ancestry, and around 0% spanish ancestry. Where are you getting your numbers from?

This is not bloodline, this is ethnicity. Anyhow, I was doing it based on native tongue estimates.

https://apps.mla.org/cgi-shl/docstudio/docs.pl?map_data_results

Brazil is also incredibly diverse but manages to give itself a name. Mexico less so but still.

Not exactly diverse in the context of america.

Yeah, probably a better example would be India or Nigeria.

This is not bloodline, this is ethnicity. Anyhow, I was doing it based on native tongue estimates.

https://apps.mla.org/cgi-shl/docstudio/docs.pl?map_data_results

Ethnicity isn't based on what language you speak, it's based on your identifying with a group based on National or cultural reasons.

Linguistic groups are all well and good, but they're certainly no identifier of groups. Classifying all indians and americans together due to both groups having significant english speaking populations is simply wrong.

Ethnicity isn't based on what language you speak, it's based on your identifying with a group based on National or cultural reasons.

Right, but it's usually pretty close, and frankly, I overstand the concept of culture.

Linguistic groups are all well and good, but they're certainly no identifier of groups. Classifying all indians and americans together due to both groups having significant english speaking populations is simply wrong.

There's a big difference: most Americans speak English as their native tongue, while a very small minority in India speak English as their native tongue (I think it's less than 1 million).

A better analogy in this case would be the DRC and France. Both have French-speaking majorities but ethnically are vastly apart.

There's a big difference: most Americans speak English as their native tongue, while a very small minority in India speak English as their native tongue (I think it's less than 1 million).

There's tons of other examples. Grouping together british people, or swedish people, or Filipinos, or Australians, or canadians, or dutch people due to sharing a common language is ridiculous.

No, it isn't. In Kinshasa, more than half don't know any French, 10% speak it well, and a negligible % speak it natively.

Grouping together british people, or swedish people, or Filipinos, or Australians, or canadians, or dutch people due to sharing a common language is ridiculous.

Swedish, Filipino, and Dutch folk don't speak English natively. But yeah, I'd say Brits, (English, not French) Canadians, and Australians are pretty like, more than most would like to admit.

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Against. America is the first nation not founded on an identity but on an idea.





(Hamburg, Germany is the home of Hamburgers not the USA)

Yes it's founded on the idea of freedom. Now how best to reflect that?

Republic of America (literally giving power of the nation to Amerigo)

Kingdom of America

dud beter be unitd states of waco wurld mmhhmmmm

15.2% of americans are germans
10.8% of americans are irish
8.7% of americans are english
7.2% of americans are "american"
5.6% of americans are italian
4.0% of americans are french
3.2% of americans are polish
1.7% of americans are scottish
1.6% of americans are dutch
1.6% of americans are norwegian
1.4% or americans are swedish

Wrong. Some corrections:
"15.2% of americans are OF german HERITAGE/ANCESTRY
10.8% of americans are OF irish HERITAGE/ANCESTRY (etc)"

But they aren't Germans, Irish, English etc. This is an important difference since most of them do not share anything in common with the real Germans, Irish etc. They are Americans, that's all.
In France we have at least half of the French who have some foreign ancestry (Italians, Polish, Maghreb etc), but nevertheless we do not make any distinction. France as America is not that diverse, as in terms of culture most of them form a single group and identity.

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No, america is around 8% english ancestry, and around 0% spanish ancestry. Where are you getting your numbers from?

And where are you getting yours from? 0% Spanish ancestry is that your own analysis? Can't you give us actual datas and sources?

But they aren't Germans, Irish, English etc. This is an important difference since most of them do not share anything in common with the real Germans, Irish etc. They are Americans, that's all.
In France we have at least half of the French who have some foreign ancestry (Italians, Polish, Maghreb etc), but nevertheless we do not make any distinction. France as America is not that diverse, as in terms of culture most of them form a single group and identity.

A lot of immigrants retain most or all of their culture after immigrating to the US. This is particularly visible for immigrants such as mexicans, who in a lot of cases even still speak spanish.

Also, as you can see, only a very small minority of americans identify solely as americans in heritage (that is, 7.2%). I could't really find sources, but I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of french people identify as french. And while yes, all white people are basically the same, it's not a matter of what you actually are that creates divisions, but what you identify as.

And where are you getting yours from? 0% Spanish ancestry is that your own analysis? Can't you give us actual datas and sources?

Yes, in fact I can. These are official US census numbers:

https://www.census.gov/prod/2004pubs/c2kbr-35.pdf

There are around 299K spaniards in the US, which out of a population of approximately 322.36 million can be rounded to 0%.

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