when one thing happens that one nation doesn't particularly like, it all of a sudden becomes necessary.

It doesn't become necessary, but a government finds an excuse to bloat it's economy through fascist-kind of profitable military spending. The Syrian Arab Republic definitely is justified for war against the Masrhiq, its war is really defensive (against the Mashriq). But China, America, Russia, Iran? Get the fuck out, you disgusting militaristic empires.

Also, this post was inspired, I saw some Romanian nationalists and Italian patriot talking about the First World War. (Paraphrasing)

"Wow, Romania rejoined on the day before the war ended, Nov. 10... 'I knew we could defeat Germany, blokes!'"
"Hey, don't insult Romania, we greatly helped the Allies, but unluckily, the Russians betrayed us and left us nearly defenceless."
"Italy fights for 22 months and gets some of Istria and Trentino. Romania fights for 8 and gets Transilavania and Moldova?"
"Fuck you, Romania won in three battles against Germany, and we were fighting against Hungary and Germany, and we won in battles against Hungary, too, and meantime Italy, it does nothing." (I wonder how many battles they lost?)

This disgusting patriotism, just fully not caring that there were soldiers who were sent from their families to die, by the bullet of the foe soldier, and by the government that commanded them, and they just talk about what side did more, and some irredentism. And bragging about how many they killed.

Some folk don't like how countries boycotted the 75th anniversary of May 7 in Russia. But I say it's just a purely politic happening, where Russia gets to play the "past card" and say "hey, we saved Europe, about 5 times, this one the most recent, so Russian country pretty cool, if you didn't know, and Putin is our leader now, so he's cool by assocication"."

Edit: https://youtu.be/-ucjJ7SQ5eY?t=36m4s (explains well the beginning of the First World War, the whole serie is spectacular, but this bit in particular. There're English subtitles)

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Xapy,about your question('I wonder how many battles they lost?') , well...
1916
>Battle of Transilvania-initial victory, then Central Powers counterattack, we retreat in Carpathian Passes
->Battle of Selimber-Romanian victory
->Battle of Orsova-Romanian Victory
->Battle of Sibiu-German Victory
->Battle of Brasov-German Victory
->Battle of Merisor-Petrosani-Central Victory
->Battle of Praid-Sovata-Central victory.Last Romanian action in Transilvania
>Battle of Turtucaia-Bulgarian-German-Turkish victory.One(if not the only )of the worst battles during the Romanian campaign )
>Battle in the Passes-Romanian victories in Moldovian and some Muntenian passes , Centrals victory in one of them.
->Battle of Prahova Valley-Romanian victory
->Battle of Bran-Campulung-Romanian victory
->Battle of the Olt Valley-Romanian victory
->First Battle of Oituz-Romanian victory
->Battle of Vulcan Pass-Romanian victory(Erwin Rommel is present here with the Württemberg Mountain Company)
->First Battle of Jiu Valley-Romanian Victory
->Second Battle of Jiu Valley-Centrals Victory.Finnaly they found a way to enter in Romania
>Battle of Dobrich-Bulgarian victory
>First Battle of Cobadin-Romanian-Russian victory
>Flamanda Offensive-Centrals victory, despite of the initial Romanian succes
>Second Battle of Cobadin-Centrals victory
>Battle of Severin-Central victory
>Battle of Arges-Central victory
>Battle of Bucharest-Central victory, Romanian capital moved to Iasi.
>Prunaru Charge-Central victory, but this is one of the most daring actions of the Romanian Army in the First War , being the biggest cavalry charge during the campaign .
>Battle of Cricov-Ialomita-Central victory
>Battle of Ramnicul Sarat-Central victory
>Battle of Tulcea-Central victory
>Battle of Focsani-Central victory
>Battle of Siret River-Romanian-Russian victory

1917
>Battle of Pralea-Romanian victory
>Battle of Marasti-Romanian victory
>Battle of Marasesti-Romanian victory
>Second Battle of Oituz(or 3rd, cause another one took place in 1916)-Romanian victory
(these 3 were known as the ''Romanian Marne'' )

1918
>Battle of Bessarabia-Romanian victory against the bolsheviks, military ocupation of the region, 2 months later, Bessarabia unites with Romania
->Battles of Galati,Pascani, Spataresti,Mihaileni,etc... -Conflicts with bolshevik movements in Romanian territory.
>Khotin Uprising-Romanian victory against the bolsheviks

As a result,
->14 Romanian victories (17 if i put the battles with bolsheviks )
->18 Romanian loses
->535,706 dead,wounded, captured,missing,diseased, alongside with 50,000 russians, 3,000 dead and 6,000 wounded serbians, 500 transilvanians
-> while the Central's lost: 125,000 germans,79,000 austro-hungarians,31,000 bulgarians and 20,000 turks
->May 1918: Central Powers victory, Treaty of Bucharest.Romania lost 2/3 territory, but gained Bessarabia in March 1918
->November 1918: Allied victory, Treaty of Versailles.Romania unites with Bukovina and Transilvania.
Great Romania finaly formed.(and this was the main reason why Romania joined the war)
->Another conflict , Hungarian–Romanian War(1919-1920), cause of Transilvania.Romanian victory, end of the Hungarian Republic of Councils.

A bit long and maybe got far from inital idea, but this can explain a lot.

I meant it is better to be feared by other states, not your people.

Where is the difference? States cannot feel emotions, only people :P

well some people can't feel emotions either sadly..

Wars are fought by governments, yes. No governments, no war.

I'll never understand anarchist logic. Do you honestly think if we abolished all governments people around the world would join hands and start living in peace with each other?

The reason governments tend to be violent and greedy is because people tend to be violent and greedy. Government, at-least, can be regulated through various means if set up correctly. Without government you are utterly at the mercy of your fellow man with no higher power to intervene if fellow man decides to abuse you.

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Governments cannot be regulated, they are monopolies of violence that can violate anything. They already violate the regulations set forth upon them, there's no proper way to keep a eye on them.

With government, you are at the mercy of a group of hired killers. Godspeed, because no ones going to save you from them, so you're probably going to die in a hole in Poland or Cuba.

If folk wanted to kill each other all the time, you'd most likely be dead and buried somewhere. Or a dead body on the streets. People aren't naturally violent, easy to fool, but not violent. If they were , murders would be way more commonplace and the population would be lower.

Most governments are not as evil as you say. Governments that murder their own citizens for no reason don't tend to last nearly as long as the ones who don't. There's a reason why the more developed countries today have gravitated towards a democratic system.

Regardless, you still haven't told me how anarchy would be any better. I might not trust government, but I sure as heck don't trust a lot of humans out there either. If I have to make a choice between a government which MIGHT abuse me in a rare scenario, or people who WILL abuse me if the checks and balances are removed, I'll take the government.

If folk wanted to kill each other all the time, you'd most likely be dead and buried somewhere. Or a dead body on the streets. People aren't naturally violent, easy to fool, but not violent. If they were , murders would be way more commonplace and the population would be lower.

Every day I turn on the news and hear about somebody who got shot for no reason in some part of St. Louis. Not all humans are naturally violent, but some are, and those some have to be kept in check somehow or else they'll just keep killing and killing.

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Governments don't keep people in check, they hire them and send them to war. You're insane if you think governments don't kill on a regular basis more than humans.

How many folk has the US government killed? 20-50 million folk. That's evil.

What about China? 45 million in the Great Leap Forward , alone. Evil.

Nazi Germany? 11 million Jews, gypsies, homosexuals and other assorted folk. Evil.

All governments? Mass organized robbery and killing.

Governments are run by humans. It's humans who make the decision to slaughter by the millions. Take government away and people will simply find other means of arranging slaughter.

For example, what happens if we take away the Courts? The only justice remaining is Mob Justice. Mobs are by nature idiotic, psychopathic, and impossible to reason with. Witch-hunts and "Guilty until proven innocent" will become the name of the game. Despite what you say, a government CAN be negotiated with, it can be controlled and regulated through various means.

I'd rather have a monster that can be manipulated than a monster that can't.

You use social ostracization and economic embargo.

Governments are monopolies of violence that are far stronger than a individual man, and can't be negotiated with most of the time. A individual can be a monster, but not on the scale of a government.

I meant it is better to be feared by other states, not your people.

If you are feared by another country, they will take any chance to take you down. If you are loved, well, they won't. It's just that easy.

You're insane if you think governments don't kill on a regular basis more than humans.

Murder is illegal, and usually systematically tried to be stopped by governments, as it lowers the population, which is bad for the country.

In 2015, there were about 450k folk murdered by another, not in any kind of war setting, and generally each year, about 500k are killed. In 2015, about 150k folk were killed in a war setting, with no regulating force.

I'd much rather live in a government of kinds than not ungovernment where anything goes. Social ostrasisation won't do a thing to psycopaths or sociopaths. Economic embargo? You mean the nonexistent organisation it takes to do a boycott?

Marxism is all fine, but there's nothing stopping some big business from getting some guns, taking over, and making you pay fees each year, and just like that, comes a new government.

No one will buy or sell it you if you just robbed Steven, and if you killed him private police would be after you.

The business that does that will have to unify with others, lots of others. This is harder than what governments usually get created by (other governments, tribalism and violence) because it takes putting all the pieces together and trying to keep them together while expecting everyone to be ok with involuntary exchanges.

TL;DR

No one will buy or sell it you if you just robbed Steven, and if you killed him private police would be after you.

Sure, they would, just as folk sell folk to crimers today. They don't care what you do with it, just as long as they get money for it, and without government regulation, such deeds will happen only more.

Private watch? Not going to happen, there's no individual motivation for it.

The business that does that will have to unify with others, lots of others.

Not even that, but just set up their own zones of dominance, which will become countries and the lines between them will become battlegrounds.

If you are feared by another country, they will take any chance to take you down. If you are loved, well, they won't. It's just that easy.

No. If you are loved, okay, but what if someone needs your oil? They won't just say, "I love this guy" and not take what they need. They may feel bad about it, but they require it nevertheless. However, when you are feared, no one will be willing to attack you even if they want your shit. Furthermore, it is not possible to be loved by everyone; conflict of interests will prevent it. You can't be loved by Ukraine and Russia, or the Saudis and Iran, or India and Pakistan. It just can't happen. On the other hand, it very easy to be feared by both.

One more thing - don't confuse being hated and feared. The former will result in the scenario you described, where "they will take any chance to take you down." This is like the USA attacking the Nazis. The latter will result in them not attacking you for fear of being destroyed - like the USA not attacking the USSR.

You can be loved by practically everyone with this one simple trick: Free trade.