Common culture? Definitely loads, they are all come from the same nomads who wandered Arabia, they all know the saying "A magpie flock can slay a camel.", they both have like thoughts. Faith? Yes, definitely, it's pretty obvious: Islam. Ethnicity? If you mean by this solidarity, then, yes, definitely. Everyone says they're Arab, and every Arab learns Official Arabic, along with site Arabic. And between the peninsular Arabs and the by far minority Assyrians, Jews, and Amhars, they all share the same Abrahamic faith;

All of the similarities you've listed are between arabs, who are indeed mostly arabic speaking as well as mostly muslim. While most people who speak semitic languages are indeed arabs, there is a significant minority of 10% who speak other semitic languages such as Hebrew, Amharic and Tingrinya. Simply claiming that one out of ten people simply don't exist or are irrelevant is not valid.

frankly, Christianity, Islam, and Judaism should be thought of the same faith, just different macrobranches, as there's so much overlap from what they believe in, and they all came from more or less the same root. There are many differences, to be sure, but not as much as Tengrism or Hinduism (which itself is not a very unified faith, but still counted as one). And they speak like tongues, as Indoeuropeans do.

When studying religion, they often are; Along with Baha'ism, they are referred to as "Abrahamic religions".

Anti + Semitic, means you're against Semtic folk: Arabs of all kinds, Israelites, Amhars, and more. It's just fully insensible to do such a thing, and it is a duty of those who speak English to never abuse a word to this extent. A majority can be wrong.

It is a duty of a speaker of any language to make sure that first and foremost they are understood by the person they are speaking to. Even if it is a term such as "Anti-jew" that is easily understandable simply by intuition, if it is not one that is widely used, it just makes you seem condescending when you use it.

The prophet Abraham peace be upon him was a muslim not a jew or catholic. And Islam is a monotheistic religion, and it's the true religion. And Islam is not the same as judaism or the beliefs of the catholics and protestants.

Seeing that Abraham lived around 2600 years ago and Islam has only existed for about 1300, It's a logical impossibility that Abraham was Muslim.

But they do - inflammable does mean not able to be alighted (and the opposite).

No. Wrong. http://blog.dictionary.com/inflammable/

And a muslim is not a democrat, a muslim believes only in the law of ALLAH, and a muslim doesn't believe in man made law. So if a person describes himself to Islam and he believes in democracy or secularism or liberalism then such a person is an apostate.

This is why I call Islam a cancer on Western culture. Everything he said there is true, and inescapable. Tell me that can integrate into Western culture, and I'll call you a liar.

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All of the similarities you've listed are between arabs, who are indeed mostly arabic speaking as well as mostly muslim. While most people who speak semitic languages are indeed arabs, there is a significant minority of 10% who speak other semitic languages such as Hebrew, Amharic and Tingrinya.

There are 300 million Arabs of some kind, 30 million Amhars, 7 million Tigrays, 5 million Israelites, and noone really else. I'd say that the Semitic folk are very unified. Minorities should not be left out, but it's about 90% these folk are Muslim. It's like saying that landweights don't dominate the world, since 1/10 folk live on an island (Australia excluded).

So, if you picked 2 Semtic folk at random, there'd be 82% likeliness that they share the same faith, and 76% they share the same faith, which is better to most macroethnicites: Germanic, Chinese, Italic, so on.

When studying religion, they often are; Along with Baha'ism, they are referred to as "Abrahamic religions".

Yes, but in my thought, they are just pretty much the same, although Christians, Muslims, and Jews all disagree. Bahaï, on the other hand, I do not say is so like them, Bahaï believes that one god is what all the monotheistic faiths preach, and this is the same god, and blends many faiths.

It is a duty of a speaker of any language to make sure that first and foremost they are understood by the person they are speaking to.

Well, duty met here, and what I am doing is the same object, but for the long-time, to make the tongue sensible and less confusing, and thus more understandable.

And Islam is not the same as judaism or the beliefs of the catholics and protestants.

Oh, please, you even both worship Jesus as the Messiah, who will come back on the Apocolypse.

And a muslim is not a democrat, a muslim believes only in the law of ALLAH, and a muslim doesn't believe in man made law. So if a person describes himself to Islam and he believes in democracy or secularism or liberalism then such a person is an apostate.


This is why I call Islam a cancer on Western culture. Everything he said there is true, and inescapable. Tell me that can integrate into Western culture, and I'll call you a liar.

He's not even a Muslim, and I can tell you that fundamentalist Christianity and Judaism and other dogmatisms would suffer from the same problems - they listen to only their ruler (God) and his laws, not manmade laws, but that is why there is moderation, and irreligion to save every country from becoming a theocracy, as they once were.

But Muslims don't have moderation and irreligion because anyone who tries is killed.

Also, he speaks Arabic and Berber. That doesn't sound like your typical Nederlander

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But Muslims don't have moderation and irreligion because anyone who tries is killed.

Read this, it will confirm some of what you say, and deny others.

http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-overview/

But in short, that's totally false, with Ba'athism being a major example.

Also, he speaks Arabic and Berber. That doesn't sound like your typical Nederlander

Can't you tell a lying troll when you see one? He probably doesn't even speak French or German, let alone Arabic or Berber (and Berber is not even one tongue - it's several, without any unified version, unlike Arabic (with an unified version)). Dutch and English, I believe this, not more.

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There are 300 million Arabs of some kind, 30 million Amhars, 7 million Tigrays, 5 million Israelites, and noone really else. I'd say that the Semitic folk are very unified. Minorities should not be left out, but it's about 90% these folk are Muslim. It's like saying that landweights don't dominate the world, since 1/10 folk live on an island (Australia excluded).

So, if you picked 2 Semtic folk at random, there'd be 82% likeliness that they share the same faith, and 76% they share the same faith, which is better to most macroethnicites: Germanic, Chinese, Italic, so on.

A minority doesn't have to have a one in two prevalence to be coutned as a significant population share. I fact, i'd say that even one in twenty (5%) is pretty significant.

Around 10% of arabs are christian, and combined with all the other semitic folks who are both semitic and not arabs, that's 20% of people, which is no small minority. While it isn't larger than 4 out of five, one of five is still a significant population proportion, and way too much to generalize and say that for practical purposes doesn't even exist.

Yes, but in my thought, they are just pretty much the same, although Christians, Muslims, and Jews all disagree. Bahaï, on the other hand, I do not say is so like them, Bahaï believes that one god is what all the monotheistic faiths preach, and this is the same god, and blends many faiths.

There are important theological differences, make no mistake. However, from your standpoint (I'm assuming you're irreligious, I apologize if I'm mistaken), The scriptural people are pretty much the same, the scriptures are very similar, as you've already pointed out Jesus is even upheld as the saviour of the jews in the Quran.

Well, duty met here, and what I am doing is the same object, but for the long-time, to make the tongue sensible and less confusing, and thus more understandable.

You're not really convincing anyone to give up their "Antisemitism", and it's pretty much just annoying to refuse to use terms that everyone uses because they are technically incorrect.

He's not even a Muslim, and I can tell you that fundamentalist Christianity and Judaism and other dogmatisms would suffer from the same problems - they listen to only their ruler (God) and his laws, not manmade laws, but that is why there is moderation, and irreligion to save every country from becoming a theocracy, as they once were.

Secularism came from christian thinkers in western nations, not from irreligious folks...

Around 10% of arabs are christian

Can you source this, this seems very high, the only Arabic countries where there is a big number of Christians is in Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine. Egypt, too, but it's very small proportionally in Egypt.

combined with all the other semitic folks who are both semitic and not arabs

They are not united in faith, either.

A minority doesn't have to have a one in two prevalence to be coutned as a significant population share. I fact, i'd say that even one in twenty (5%) is pretty significant.

The thing is, it doesn't even have one-in-five prevalence at 10%, and 10% is where I (and psychologically, humans) cut off for significance, generally. In statist, it's generally 5%, but depends on settings. Anyhow, the point is, that these minorities don't really make it ified, they're too small to.

You're not really convincing anyone to give up their "Antisemitism", and it's pretty much just annoying to refuse to use terms that everyone uses because they are technically incorrect.

What is annoying to me, is to see these blatantly wrong words being wielded, when there's such an obvious alternative word - anti-Jew or anti-Israelite. And it is like you say - it helps to communicate to wield the right words.

Secularism came from christian thinkers in western nations, not from irreligious folks

They didn't come from fundamentalists, but they came from Christian thinkers who ignored bits of the Book to become un-Christianly tolerant.

The thing is, it doesn't even have one-in-five prevalence at 10%, and 10% is where I (and psychologically, humans) cut off for significance, generally. In statist, it's generally 5%, but depends on settings. Anyhow, the point is, that these minorities don't really make it ified, they're too small to.

What? Any sources for this? It looks like you're conflating the concept of statistical significance (alpha values) with human perceptions of populations.

It looks like you're conflating the concept of statistical significance (alpha values) with human perceptions of populations.

That is what I am doing, I don't see anything wrong with that in this case.

can i cite harry potter as proof of w/e argument i make

cus ur using the quran

why not harry potter

i like that book

Can you source this, this seems very high, the only Arabic countries where there is a big number of Christians is in Syria, Lebanon, and Palestine. Egypt, too, but it's very small proportionally in Egypt.

What? Any sources for this? It looks like you're conflating the concept of statistical significance (alpha values) with human perceptions of populations.

It seems the number is actually closer to 5%, as I apparently had some number from before the recent mess which has caused a significant number of christians to leave the area:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-11509256

The thing is, it doesn't even have one-in-five prevalence at 10%, and 10% is where I (and psychologically, humans) cut off for significance, generally. In statist, it's generally 5%, but depends on settings. Anyhow, the point is, that these minorities don't really make it ified, they're too small to.

When you're talking about such a huge sample size, percentages don't even really matter that much; We are talking about 40+ million people here.

What is annoying to me, is to see these blatantly wrong words being wielded, when there's such an obvious alternative word - anti-Jew or anti-Israelite. And it is like you say - it helps to communicate to wield the right words.

It only helps to communicate if both people are in agreement that the term is wrong; IE, it would probably make things smoother communicating between me and you. In a lot of cases however, I'd even say the vast majority, it just sounds awkward.

They didn't come from fundamentalists, but they came from Christian thinkers who ignored bits of the Book to become un-Christianly tolerant.

Christian theology its self is pretty tolerant of other religions; In fact, it even allows for interfaith marriage:


1 Corinthians 7:12-14

12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.

Anti + Semitic, means you're against Semtic folk: Arabs of all kinds, Israelites, Amhars, and more. It's just fully insensible to do such a thing, and it is a duty of those who speak English to never abuse a word to this extent. A majority can be wrong.

So I shouldn't say that Xapy is nitpicking because he is not literally pulling nits out of anyone's hair. Nor should I say he's being dense because his mass per volume is not increasing.

^ +1 lol

can i cite harry potter as proof of w/e argument i make

cus ur using the quran

why not harry potter

i like that book

Ha, +1

So I shouldn't say that Xapy is nitpicking because he is not literally pulling nits out of anyone's hair. Nor should I say he's being dense because his mass per volume is not increasing.

Those are figurative words - I do not nitpick for those, but saying "Xapy is only pointing out biggest things" (when you mean nitpicking) or saying I'm hollow, this's ridiculous.