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M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-19 11:00:09


Norman 
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And I was hoping you would correct your guess with a more sound guess.

Let's start the manhunt. A player with many alts and with good knowledge about the WarLight community. In the past his current clan was big like the Darklords and now it's small like almost non existant.
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-19 16:07:24

arthadain
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true
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-19 17:18:48


l4v.r0v 
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@Norman: eh, Forbidden Knowledge doesn't play from France; maybe a proxy, but I doubt it.
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-19 17:30:44


TBest 
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Knyte, the hell account have been jumping around when it comes to its flag. If that is who you are talking about?

Edited 5/19/2016 17:32:28
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-19 17:36:13


Luna {TJC}
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Mike doesn't actually believe what he wrote does he...?
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-19 17:52:11


l4v.r0v 
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@TBest: ah, so most likely hiding behind a proxy then.
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-19 17:53:32


GeneralPE
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Yeah he was Germany last I saw
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-19 18:02:46


Norman 
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@Norman: eh, Forbidden Knowledge doesn't play from France; maybe a proxy, but I doubt it.

I guess you checked his flag another day since his flag currently shows Germany and he hasn't logged in for over a day. We have a well trained dog with a superhuman dog nose capable of sniffing out those alts.
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-19 18:04:42


TeamGuns
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Is the name of the dog farah? :D
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-19 18:57:43


Norman 
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Is the name of the dog farah? :D

Farah thinks and acts like a human. A human would look at the country flag, look at a pattern in the forum posts and ask other members about their oppinion. Some humans may be pretty good at this however in the end it's just more or less wild guesswork. Our dog doesn't think like a human, he just sniffs in the air.
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-20 01:49:31


Lionel Hutz
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That's nice dear, but why not try addressing the title of the thread and telling us what the make-believe council has decided regarding AI? I think that's all we're really waiting for.

Thanks.
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-20 05:51:32


Norman 
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That's nice dear, but why not try addressing the title of the thread and telling us what the make-believe council has decided regarding AI? I think that's all we're really waiting for.

Thanks.


No, nobody is interested in that. People are much more interested who Hell is and since he decided to attack the Master Hunters we decided to hunt him down like a rabbit. As I already stated M'Hunters is the clan of the free people not big mama state punishing their children so you are obviously just trying to divert attention to another topic where I have already stated what will happen.

The real issue here is that if Knight is right that I indeed pointed out Hell as Forbidden Knowledge then Hell would be a convicted ladder cheater himself who now thinks he can safely attack the Master Hunters. He didn't reveal anything with this thread, he just thought attacking M'Hunters would be a safe thing to do. He thought people would clap applause and nobody would be capable to track him down hiding behind his proxy.

Edited 5/20/2016 06:18:01
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-20 09:42:28


Krzysztof 
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No, nobody is interested in that.


Well, i'm. That makes at least one person interested in that.
And really don't care who Hell is (altough i'm also consider using alts to start shit-storm as low behaviour)


He didn't reveal anything with this thread


Maybe he didn't reveal nothing new, but he pointed out two things:
- AI is cheater
- his clan doesn't care about that

And in fact, that's what make me sad. There's always widespread disgust when some cheater/staller is revealed(especially if he is good, well-known player). But nothing follows. So if Fizzer doesn't care (i'm aware he can't do much with stallers though) and community doesn't care, how can we hope to get rid of them.
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-20 10:33:29


Angry Koala
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Kryscshyu check your mails!!
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-20 10:40:31

Mike
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Have all top players games being thoroughly analyzed ? Is AI the only one to stall ? Or is he the only one to publicly admit it ? He did say he has a shot at a top rank, that means he is stalling on this occasion to record a high top rank ever, then he wont need it any more.

If stalling is cheating there must be a lot of other cheaters (I assume, considering the ranking system). For the second account, it would be cheating only if he loses a series of games after playing against his direct competitors. He s not doing that, he is trying to get top rank with both accounts.
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-20 10:54:01


Norman 
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No, he didn't reveal that we don't care however I could reveal another one of Hells alts which he used to game the real time ladder. Nobody kicked MoD out of his clan for using the Desy account parallel to his account, Ahol isn't throwing out Boston, Lynx didn't throw out dwogee, gg not Ctrl Alt Delete, WM not Gnuffone, 20 not Beelzebul, WG not Marc, Apex not Timinator,.... We are currently about to state our displeasement to AI however we certainly aren't kicking him. We didn't kick the guy calling me a Nazi and we didn't kick the guy wishing RBK to die in the gas chambers (after his first offense).
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-20 11:01:48


master of desaster 
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I didn't use desi to get an advantage on my main. I was like rank 15 with over 150 unexpired games (in 3 months back then) and i wanted more cause the games were too slow. I even surrendered to desi 2 out of 3 times. On 150 unexpired games there is no big advantage even if i win against my own account, but i didn't even do that. It was disadvantageous for me.

Long thing short: i played with 2 accounts on the ladder but the effect was entirely different
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-20 11:15:39


Krzysztof 
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Have all top players games being thoroughly analyzed ? Is AI the only one to stall

Doesn't matter - you can't find all thieves in the world, yet you don't want to allow those who are caught to go unpunished.


For the second account, it would be cheating only if he loses a series of games after playing against his direct competitors. He s not doing that, he is trying to get top rank with both accounts.

Haha, right. Define "series" Three in a row is enough or it has to be five? What is "_direct_ competitors" - no more than 50 points difference in rating? 68? 10%? He fixed game between his accounts - only that is more than enough to even not consider qouted bullshit.

Nobody kicked MoD out of his clan for using the Desy account parallel to his account, Ahol isn't throwing out Boston, Lynx didn't throw out dwogee, gg not Ctrl Alt Delete, WM not Gnuffone, 20 not Beelzebul, WG not Marc, Apex not Timinator,....


That's the point. I don't know what most of them have done, neither will try to judge them, but i know there were more such obvious cases like this one, ending with nothing. What, as written in earlier post, makes me sad.
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-20 11:49:24

Jaymer
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Not really sure how I feel about stalling, but this argument?

He did say he has a shot at a top rank, that means he is stalling on this occasion to record a high top rank ever, then he wont need it any more.


He did say he had a shot at a top class rank, that means he cheated on his final exams on this occasion to graduate with good grades, then he won't need it anymore.
M'Hunters approves of ladder cheating: 2016-05-20 12:17:03


Buns157 
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@Mike it isn't about stalling, it's about him playing yourself. It gives him an inflated score (along with his stalling, he could have easily took first spot if he was a better player with these cheats. I really really don't see how you don't think that's a bad thing, it should have some punishment.

I agree with chu here, and also Norman. M hunters do not need to do anything, if they're all pretty friendly then especially. it just needs action from fizzer which will sadly never happen.

Edit: I don't agree with mods reason too when he used multi accounts at once, but that was too long ago before I played and paid attention to ladders.

Edited 5/20/2016 12:18:31
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