Look, my objective wasn't to create an atmosphere more overly dramatic then the Clone Wars ( If you got that joke, I love you #StarWars ) but to just think it over. Please don't get personal or anything.



Anyhow, I will back my list up. I fully support everything I put on here. In retrospect, I might have contradicted myself with Johnson but let's just say besides equal rights, I fucking hate his ass ( Although Nominating Goldwater was a desperate ass move by Republicans lol ). Juq, you pretty much go to the right or left of what ever I say for fun lol. Ox, I think your probably victim of the counter propaganda movements propaganda. People get so caught up in running around screaming everything is propaganda that they don't actually realize that they themselves are part of a propaganda mission ( Classic example of this can be found in Smedly. Sorry Smedly lol I love you you little conspiracy theorist lol ). Reagan and Gorbachev both played big roles in those negotiations, equal credit is due. Also, for someone who supports government involvement in everything your sure quick to press the ' Everything government says is a lie ' button. Ox, if your gonna trust the government with your health care than learn to trust official negotiation history from the 80s lol baby steps my friend, all goals are reached through baby steps.

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Some things about Jackson...

He vetoed more bills than all previous presidents combined. He only vetoed 12 bills. What was more notable was the fact that he was the first president to veto a bill for reasons beyond their constitutionality.

Additionally... Yes, his Indian policy was abhorrent. However, he was doing what he thought was best for them. He feared that many southerners would continue to encroach on the lands in spite of any treaties made with the tribes who got removed (especially when gold was discovered on Cherokee lands in the late 1820's). Some historians have made the argument that in spite of some of the hardships, some tribes only survived because of the relocation. Additionally, the policy of removal was widely accepted as appropriate by many politicians, to include Van Buren, Jackson's VP and the president under which many Indians were actually removed. None of this makes the removal policy right, but any criticism of it needs the appropriate context.

Plus, if we're giving people like Fillmore bonus points for holding the Union together, we have no choice but to give significant credit for Jackson's handling of the nullification crisis. When combined with the fact that his victory at the Battle of New Orleans also helped negate the Hartford Convention's secession arguments, it can be argued that only a very select few did more to preserve the union between the states.

^ Very interesting argument. I will definitely do some more reading on Jackson

No, no.

I trust publicly employed doctors with my health care.

I don't trust American presidents.

Biiiig difference.

tl;dr dogberry

The Conservative, I can't ask for more than that :-)

@Conservative:

Some of the polls in Wikipedia's rating were conducted during Reagan's presidency or immediately after it. Moreover, opinion on Reagan's probably more polarized politically than opinion on earlier presidents, since the US electorate has generally become more polarized since 1992- approval ratings are now incredibly skewed based on your political party.

Juq, you pretty much go to the right or left of what ever I say for fun lol.

It's not a matter of right or left, it's a matter of life or death.

Reagan and Gorbachev both played big roles in those negotiations, equal credit is due.

good joke, tell again

Top 5 For Me

1. Coolidge
2. Jefferson
3. Washington
4. Eisenhower
5. Polk

Coolidge is possibly the most underrated Great Leader in History.

The negotiations were a deception. The soviets are planning on taking over more of the world via infiltration and subversion and they are succeeding.

I trust publicly employed doctors with my health care.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veterans_Health_Administration_scandal_of_2014

^ IKR


That's what happens when you trust the government with your health

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^^
@Ox

https://youtu.be/_tWC5qtfby4

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>trusting goyyim

Scotland has one of the best national health services in the world. I don't care for the shitty American corrupt health care system, at least he's pushing it in the right direction. However, we are already right, unlike you primitive klootzaks.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-31601884

Yes American healthcare is corrupt, but that's because of the socialists regulating it. Still better than Scotland's bandit healthcare, where you steal money and use it to pay for healthcare. And before you whine about war, remember who the heck you're talking to.

TRUMP will b da best president!!!!!!!!!

Better an ineffective system than a system that poisons you.

Yes, because if no one will monitor you, you will kill all your patients. Like how if the government doesn't watch you to make sure you don't inject heroin, you'll inject heroin. Or if the government doesn't keep you from crossing the middle of a street, you'll jump in front of a car.

Could someone name an issue that Smedly doesn't copy juqs opinion? Lol

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