Anyone denying the Nordic countries have some of the best living settings in the world, particularly Iceland...c'mon. And on the other hand of the spectron, though, you've got loads of folk denying that Qatar and Bahrain are good lands to live in as well - they are just as well.

I think there was a poll done in several countries, on what was the worst problem in their country. For America, it was crime and foreign attacks. For Britain, the EU. For Sweden, it was that the country was very boring.

If I could go anywhere and live there as a denizen, it would definitely be Iceland.

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Smedley, quality of life is different then purchasing power.

Purchasing power doesn't count up living standards well enough. Human Development Index does that better. And secondly , you only show us Sweden, not the other Scandinavian countries like Iceland,Denmark and Norway. The fact that Sweden has the lowest HDI of them all, made it for you very wise to compare that particular country with the US. Finally in that first newsarticle you showed me there's an update on that which counterclaims the article itself.

Also good joke you're thinking I'm a socialist. I laughed for a while. Bringing political insults to a thread that was destined to go about a game you'd get victory 1-0 with all the other off-topic forum users.

Smedley you politic centrist!

Well let's see what the poor in America have:

80 percent of poor households have air conditioning. In 1970, only 36 percent of the entire U.S. population enjoyed air conditioning.
92 percent of poor households have a microwave.
Nearly three-fourths have a car or truck, and 31 percent have two or more cars or trucks.
Nearly two-thirds have cable or satellite TV.
Two-thirds have at least one DVD player, and 70 percent have a VCR.
Half have a personal computer, and one in seven have two or more computers.
More than half of poor families with children have a video game system, such as an Xbox or PlayStation.
43 percent have Internet access.
One-third have a wide-screen plasma or LCD TV.
One-fourth have a digital video recorder system, such as a TiVo.

So what about hunger? Poor folk must be going hungry right?

96 percent of poor parents stated that their children were never hungry at any time during the year because they could not afford food.
83 percent of poor families reported having enough food to eat.
82 percent of poor adults reported never being hungry at any time in the prior year due to lack of money for food.

Well they must live in slums, at least, right?

Over the course of a year, 4 percent of poor persons become temporarily homeless.
Only 9.5 percent of the poor live in mobile homes or trailers, 49.5 percent live in separate single-family houses or townhouses, and 40 percent live in apartments.
42 percent of poor households actually own their own homes.
Only 6 percent of poor households are overcrowded. More than two-thirds have more than two rooms per person.
The average poor American has more living space than the typical non-poor person in Sweden, France, or the United Kingdom.
The vast majority of the homes or apartments of the poor are in good repair.

So since Americans aren't really poor, why would a vastly greatened welfare state help? Maybe it'll make America richer! Oh wait, Sweden dropped from being the fourth richest to being the twelfth richest. Well maybe it will help the middle class! Oh wait the high taxes have been crushing the Swedish middle class.

Also, I'll call you what I want to call you, commie.

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Fair enough Americacentrist.

I'm still reminding you that you are only criticizing Sweden and not the other Scandinavian countries like Norway, Denmark and Iceland.

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communism? ew

Also, Belgium is a freakish country, is it Dutch or is it French? Exactly, you don't know and neither do I. I'm pretty sure the government has given up on installing nationalism into the population, no one cares about Belguim, not even it's own freak Flemish and Wallonian folk.

I'm laughing even harder. You're identifying me as a nationalist now without me ever have expressed political opinions. (aside from a thread in which I claimed to be anti-nationalist)

O my good. I swear if you're going to call me an anarchist after this I'll die.

oh and by the way.. Americacentrist ;)

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He's not socialist, and you're being silly, not actually denying what he said, either. Also, high taxes don't crush a middle class, they mould a middle class. Don't say such bold things without backing it, frankly, folk here are way more confident than they should be in economy.

Sweden's average money, selon World Bank, has grown yearly 0.04% less than America from 1990 to 2014. Going by IMF from 1980 to 2016; Sweden beats America by 0.09% each year.

The Swedish folk are happier than American, selon the World Happiness Report by the UN (calculated by GHP by head, social support, health, everyday freedoms, trust in government).

In Sweden, 3x less folk have AIDS. 6x lower murder rate. A barely lower HDI (lower by 0.08). 2x less infant mortality. 3 more years of life on average. Pretty much either way better or just a bit worse, that's how Sweden does on most world rankings.

O my good. I swear if you're going to call me an anarchist after this I'll die.

No, I'm the Anarchist here. Now continue on National Bolshevik, to your Folk's Democratic Republic of Belguim. (Scientists really need to figure out a way to make joking more obvious here. I was joking about the communist part, and mimicking Panda on the Belguim part. You're still a socialist though.)

good job trolling. 8/10

Actually I'm not socialist at all. I don't really have any motivating political views... not sure where you got that from but since you're a heated up guy that can claim everything from his foul mouth then I trust this source with a fully 100%!

Я собираюсь ударить!

Derailed to Hell.

^ I know, right.

That's what you get when you have a bunch of political crazies that bring everything down to political discussion on a small forum. Damn Smedley and his influential Americentrist maniakness. Better close this thread before he's going to expose us all!

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