Congrats guys! I was rooting for you!

Good job MH, kick some "A"ss!

@Norman

M'H is definetly better than WG, I could hardly see WG doing better than you or any of the actual top 4 of B. As for the second relegated clan, that only time will tell; apex and gg for sure have a big shot of promoting next season.

Second thing, congrats to M'H and VS for the promotion, B will be very competitive next season for sure!

Actually I believe M'Hunters won division C

Respectable clan, Great core strategy players and good attitude for The most part ;)

My comments before hand when the season was a bit harsh but proved wrong by your strong performance, Division B will be a huge step up from this division and I'm confident we will see the truly best your clan has got to offer when pushed to the limits by what seems to be a stacked division B next season. I wish you guys the best next season.

Congratulations to VS also, Really nice clan who deserves good things to happen to then there members are really nice and are very respectable to their opponents. Want to wish them the vest next season also and wish them a happy promotion.

Edited 9/9/2016 16:12:55

good attitude

Congrstulsitons guys! :)

Clan League Update:

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Oh....Clan League. Yes, that still going on? Apparently.

Has anything happened? Sort of. Well, the positions have been sorted out for everyone but Hydra and BIA. I was going to wait to announce M'Hunters winning the division when 3v3 EU finished up, but it appears Norman suffers from premature celebration syndrome. Our hearts and prayers go out to him.

Since the last update:

• https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11736896 2v2 China: M'Hunters beats VS (A wonderful clusterfuck of clashing colours)
  
• https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11766899 3v3 EU: CORP beats LEA (Oh look! LEA played to elimination! Did any other clan but AOE do that?)
  
• https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11684094 3v3 Great Lakes: VS beats BIA (Suck it BIA! joking, obviously)

So yeah, those 3 games finished. 3v3 EU ended so I'll recap that. But first a quick look at the standings!



So with Hydra and BIA still duking it out for 3rd place, a random thought passed through my head: Why the hell does either clan want 3rd place?

If a clan ends in 3rd, the have the potential to get promoted to B, and what clan wants that? Seriously. B is murder next season. Who wants to be little fish in B when they can be bigger fish in stage 1/2? I'm seriously have a moral crisis of whether I want Hydra to come 3rd or 4th. I mean, say Hydra comes 3rd, can a clan decline a promotion spot? Say, "Naw, give it BIA. We don't want it".

Ok, onto 3v3 EU.

3v3 EU Summary:

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    Clan           Record
1st VS             (5-0)
2bd M'Hunters      (4-1)
3rd CORP           (3-2)
4th Hydra          (2-3)
5th BIA            (1-4)
6th LEA            (0-5)

So congrats on VS sweeping this 3v3 EU tournament! I don't think many would have predicted M'Hunters to come second but they did. So looking at this tournament I categorize it as VS and M"Hunters and then everyone else competing. VS and M'Hunters were just so far ahead of everyone else that it wasn't a competition to them.

CORP sneaks in 3rd place here which is quite nice for them. Their high rank here is a demonstration of good team players in CORP, whereas Hydra, BIA and LEA were nothing but a hot mess on this template.

Small anecdote, Super Smoove after beating Hydra in one of the opening games came to me to ask if something was wrong with the Hydra team. I asked what he meant and he was just wondering why they didn't seem to know what they were doing. I told him "Sebus Maximus hasn't played 3v3 EU before, ppface hates the template and Benjmain628 is a great picker but isn't great at the strategy after picks. That's why our team was a hot mess". So yeah, there are 2 clans with 3v3 EU teams, CORP which has good team players then the other 3 clans that bubbled their way to get the scrap points as none of their players actively play 3v3 EU.

With 3v3 EU over, 3v3 Great Lakes is next and a similar argument is being made. VS and M'Hunters are way ahead of the other clans as CORP, BIA, Hydra and LEA are left to fight over the scraps. The boredom that pervades this division continues.

Hydra may be murdered in Division B but your clan will learn more than they ever would have if they wasted 4 months stomping on Roleplayers. If the roster can learn from their mistakes then being in B will be far better in the long run.

Edited 9/13/2016 14:25:21

I disagree, Hydra from my stand-point have good structure, Good leadership and upcoming players who will develop in the future.

Looking at Division B it will in terms of probability finish as for next season..

• VIW
  
• Apex
  
• ONE
  
• Sninja
  
• WG
  
• M'Hunters
  
• VS
  

In the event of one of these clans replacing going from most probability from my uninformed view perhaps Apex are your only hope/bet but chances are they will stay ;)

You would have a great chance at staying up, Your clan would be so much better in its 2nd season than its 1st season as you would prepare more with more developed players.

I would actually push Hydra to over-take VS or make a great go but Rogue is correct, You get the best out of your clan when pushed to the limits and to be honest your clan doesn't get pushed to its limits if it does remain in C it will be a catwalk although on the new format it will be test , So in the end If you have a chance in competing in the top 2 divisions of Clan League why not take it? If you lose who cares progress is more important which will lead to eventual success big or small.

I looked over some of your 1v1 games for the clan league, @Platinum and I have to admit, your strict counterpicks could probably give you a couple of wins, (if the opponent picks right as predicted).

Have you also analyzed some of our M'Hunters games or are you just like: "Meh, just rank them second last. VIW kicked our but in some games, so let's rank them first."

Edited 9/13/2016 17:33:13

Nah, What I meant is what the division B league would look like for next season (What clans would be in it), Those were not positions in how I think Division B would finish next season in that sense. If you understand correctly..

I'm kind of surprised the immediate thing you did when you thought I ranked your clan 2nd last was look over my 1v1 games :P

Are you interested in how I think Division B will finish next season?

Ah right, that fits in the context, sorry. And no, I examined quite some games in the upper divisions and B has some top players where I hoped our clan would examine the board with the same thoughts.

Edited 9/14/2016 06:31:13

B will be very stacked next season. Even more than this season; the two clans that obviously were weak for B are getting replaced by two clans that could be promoting or not too far away from promotion this season in B. With Apex, GG or French relegation, the B level will also raise as all of these are probably better than Blitz or us; WG is a bit weaker but is still a B tier clan for sure.

GL for next season, the way I see it, all bets are open. M'H or VS could promote or relegate and I wouldn't be surprised at all. I belive that CL9 B will be very tight, and every point will matter, and that even more than this season's B.

Oh yeah, I'm a scorekeeper. Anything happen? Nope. Well...

It appears MH won 2v2 strat ME although that might be old news.

<3 The Update. TO the point. Avoids controversy!

++++Includes funny gif.

15/13 ign

@Rogue, if CORP wins the final game of 2v2 ME tournament, its a 3-way unbreakable tie for 1st between M'Hunters, CORP and VS. If BIA wins their final game M'Hunters wins undisputed. So yes, M'Hunters has won the tournament but who else isn't set.

And cough, um, I'm rooting for you here CORP.

I wasn't 100% honest that nothing has happening, nothing of importance has happened.

There are 2 Great Lakes games left, a ton of 2v2 China (my own personal horcrux), and the 2v2 ME game that seems will never end. And with only Hydra and BIA potentially swapping spots, yeah, not much of consequence will happen. M'Hunters won by a large margin, VS is second. CORP has evened out will all their boots done (fingers crossed), and LEA is on track to lose every single game for the past 2 months.

But I just realized there is going to be an epic game:

https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=11840939

LEA vs. CORP. The "I-play-to-elimination" LEA against the "inactive players" CORP. Yep, that's a thing. I'm very tired and am sort of delirious right now. Peace out.

The Race for Mediocrity:

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Well here we are. M'Hunters and VS have crossed the finish line and are off celebrating their wins. M'Hunters was last seen several days ago, their bender hasn't ended yet. VS was reported to treat themselves to a glass of chocolate milk instead of regular milk before getting into bed at 10:00 pm. Meanwhile, the two heads of Hydra has been hitting each other over and over, their eyes spinning, legs stumbling forward as BIA walks slowly wondering wtf is up with Hydra. CORP meanwhile has had their legs fall off now are dragging themselves forward with their arms. LEA meanwhile has been fallen on its face right at the beginning. I think a vulture is circling over them, I hope they're ok.

And so here we are, the race for mediocrity. Hydra and BIA. An epic fight for 3rd place. A rivalry that no one knows about, including Hydra and BIA and one this scorekeeper is fabricating for the sake of dramatic tension.


Disclaimer: Yes I am from Hydra and this post will seem very biased but I am trying to be honest. And just to give TBest something to shout at me later: "B-B-B-B-iase!"

So this post is predicated on two assumptions:

• Great Lakes 3v3: Hydra vs. BIA Winner = Hydra
  
• China 2v2: Hydra vs. LEA Winner = Hydra

Those two games are singled out because first, LEA has played awfully so far and there is little reason to doubt Hydra losing to them now, and second based on the current information available to me in the Great Lakes game, Hydra has good positional and income advantages against BIA. Lets assume that both games are won by Hydra, then we are looking at standings for Hydra and BIA that look like this:



Hydra would have 109 points with 1 more game to finish, Great Lakes against M'Hunters, and colour me pessimistic about that game. BIA's max points would be 110 points. They would have zero room error and would need to win their remaining 4 games (3 on 2v2 China and 1 on 2v2 ME). It is possible BIA wins those remaining 4 games but I think others will agree with me, that BIA has a harder road to 3rd place then Hydra.

I am not at all saying Hydra will come 3rd. Only that Hydra arguably has a more likely path to 3rd place then BIA.

Edited 9/25/2016 23:01:40

I think that description of us in the first paragraph is really accurate, G.E.. Seriously. :D

For all we know though, BIA might have a massive stack hidden nearby, and they are just waiting to use it. Cue the sudden addition of Europe to the Great Lakes.

so did the whole M'Hunters double-accounting get shut down then? I remember reading this thread 2/3 months ago and it was the most discussed thing here.

We won! Are you man enough to congratulate us, tomjh?