Oh for gods sake! Obviously that language isnt necessary, but we're all grown up here, and if you get offended just black list. It's that simple.

Also, 2 or 3 players don't represent an entire clan.

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While this is true, it doesn't promote a very good self image. Does it? Oculus addressing this issue is a good thing for the Nights Watch, as they now can help build up the hole left by the immaturity of some members; they have done this by conducting this issue in a helpful and friendly way.
Because of that they have improved the clan image.

Edited 6/21/2016 17:52:52

Being the creator and host of the Nights Watch Mystery Games, I feel that I need to say something here. In my humble opinion, this situation has blown way out of control. It never should have gotten to this point. This was something that should have stayed between myself and Chembaka and for that, I am the responsible party. I voiced my frustration to the developmental team and they followed my lead and sent their PM's to Chem.

What was said in those PMs is partially posted here and I think we all can agree that they were uncalled for and way over the top. Some of it was meant as a joke (the hate stuff) but it was worded horribly and in poor taste. I have apologized to Chem for those outbursts aimed at him and also for the fact that I even brought it up to the team and he seemed to be ok with that, even saying that he really didn't care much about what was said to him in those PMs. He's more concerned about keeping in good status with our Clan so he can continue to play in our games. We are currently in discussions now, to get this all cleared up.

Also, THIRD, Ragnar and I, as leaders of the Nights Watch Clan, have been in discussions this morning and we are working on repercussions for those involved. Whatever those end up being, they will remain in-clan and confidential. However, in those discussion, we keep coming back to something that is really bothering us: Why in the world did Oculus (the OP) even post this here in the first place? If there was an issue with our clan or people in our clan, then coming to the leader or leaders of that clan should have been the first step. We really feel that only half the story was told here and our clan was dragged thru the mud for no reason. Oculus was not involved and Chem has since told me that he didn't tell him nor want him to even post it here. He was just venting to a clan mate. There was no reason for any of this to be reported to Fizzer, the leadership of the Nights Watch would have been happy and willing to do something about it on our own, to assure that it never happened again. But we were not given that chance before we were reported.

So, to sum it all up: There was some confusion and frustration and stuff said that shouldn't have been said. There were discussions that I had with my Dev Team that never should have occurred. I have apologized to Chem for these things and for even bringing it up to the team. I hope he accepts my apology. Leadership of the Clan is embarrassed and very sorry that this was even posted here and we are dealing with those involved. The OP will hopefully learn from this and contact those involved in any future incidents like this instead of posting it in public for all to see and dragging thru the mud a very good and strong RPing Clan.

Thank you for your time!

Have to agree there... While he says this was no attack on the clan it very much seems like one. This could have been settled so much more easily and he had to basically shame the clan.

Just want to say, this is the most mature resolvation of an issue i have ever seen on this website. Bravo to all of you.

Duh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh nuh BATMAN!!

Well, there is a chat game specifically for that, but the only person in The Circle that is in it isn't very active (That Guy), so an alternate mean of communication would have to be used. Just a terrible decision to not have dealt this through PM with Ragnar or one of the big guys in NW, honestly.

Also, 2 or 3 players don't represent an entire clan.

They don't, but 2 bad apples in your clan means you're probably doing something wrong, and measures have to be taken. I'm pretty sure everyone strives for have no bad apples; just imagine the chaos the world would be if the CIA or FBI went by the philosophy that 2 or 3 moles don't mean anything. It also hurts reputation a lot.

Slightly unrelated, but to the "dev team": Don't take criticism badly, ever. Even if it's non-constructive. If someone complains about something you did, ignore it. If the complaint is rude, IGNORE IT. I've had quite a couple people hammering my messed up templates (Genghis, McMuller being the prime examples 3:) and reacted by just not doing anything. If it really bothers you, drop in a report and let it go. I don't really blame Oculus for posting it here; you escalated the issue, he just escalated further.

And remember, complaints don't mean you messed up. Happy people stay silent. Proceed with the game and have fun with it.

The issue here is solved, so drop the thread. This shouldn't have gone public in the first place. How the issue will be solved is now entirely between Chem, Ragnar and the dev team.

You put kids in clan

You don't disclipine kids

Kids be kids and Insult other kids

Kids report to forums

Kids clan gets bad kids rep

True story

Platnium, just stop. Before you make a fool of yourself.

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Ignore him, I don't understand Platinum's problem.