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AWP World Tour - Grand Slam - Old 1v1 ladder: 2016-08-02 14:07:28


Krzysztof 
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what about reducing 'Grand Slams' to (best) 64 players and making it double-elim? Unfortunately there is no seeding mechanism in warlight, so there's no way to avoid top players fighting in early rounds which is a big loss. Double-elim would reduce that factor at least a little.
AWP World Tour - Grand Slam - Old 1v1 ladder: 2016-08-02 14:31:43


PanagiotisTheGreekFreak
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I agree with Chu.Feel bad that I lost first round because i faced a strong opponent,whereas other players face medium strength players :(
AWP World Tour - Grand Slam - Old 1v1 ladder: 2016-08-03 04:49:41


Ekstone 
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Before I started this series I was thinking a lot about the single or double elimination question.
Then I choosed single elimination, because:
  • I am lazy :)
    Using single elimination the ATP World Tour point system migration was very simple (ATP events are single eliminations too). But this was only a small reason (but a reason :P) of my decision
  • When I was an active player, I didn't really like the double elimination system
    I mean, theoretically, it is clearly better than the single, because the pairing issue were mentioned by you. So using double eliminiation, if you lost one game you still have a chance to win the tourney.
    But in practice, for me, it did'nt look like above. After I lost my first game, my motivation level reduced a lot, because the "Road the Redemption" is a very hard journey.
    I don't mean the hard opponents (ok partly yes), but the twice as much needed matches for the tourney win!
    For example, using single elimination a Grand Slam title (128 players) means 7 played games, while using double elim. system, if you lost your first game but after win the tourney, that means 15 played games!
    After you loose your first game, the match number for the win is doubling for you, and the pairing issue is still exist (if you are the third best player, still chance you got the first and second best players as your first two opponents and early out)
  • Already there is a good double elimination series, the WSOW
    There were round robin and double elimination series, so I wanted to add the missing single elimination system to the palette :)
Ok, despite these, the pairing issue were mentioned by you still exists, this is why I positioned this series as a fun series in the beginning.

Btw, I made a feeble attempt to resolve this:
https://www.warlight.net/Forum/156045-uservoice-new-tournament-feature-suggestions

Ok, first step, I do a real attempt to resolve this.
I mean, I create the user voice tickets and contact Fizzer, maybe a miracle happens :)
With seeding, the issue would been solved. With best of X tournaments and BYES possibilities the Tour system would be perfect :D

If the miracle won't happen, and Fizzer's immediate roadmap will be unbreakable, then we must to make a decision: stay the single or change to double elimination system.

In case of double elminiation system, would be the best if we can merge somehow the WSOW and the AWP World Tour (for example WSOW events can be the major events of AWP World Tour, or I dunno)
AWP World Tour - Grand Slam - Old 1v1 ladder: 2016-08-03 08:47:53


Ekstone 
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Ok, I created the uservoice idea about the seeded private tournament:
https://warlight.uservoice.com/forums/77051-warlight-features/suggestions/15523269-seeded-private-tournaments

Vote please if you like it ;)
AWP World Tour - Grand Slam - Old 1v1 ladder: 2016-08-03 09:46:49


Ekstone 
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AWP World Tour - Grand Slam - Old 1v1 ladder: 2016-08-03 15:17:15


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I gave 3 votes each to the swiss system tournaments and seeded private tournaments.

In the principle of simplicity I would say Fizzer would be more attracted to making the swiss system tournaments rather than the private seeded tournaments IMO.

I would be happy if one of these nice ideas got implemented =)
AWP World Tour - Grand Slam - Old 1v1 ladder: 2016-08-04 19:17:48


Tac(ky)tical 
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Screw you Ox and your lousy predictions!
AWP World Tour - Grand Slam - Old 1v1 ladder: 2016-08-05 03:52:10


Ekstone 
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Hehe, revenge of an exiled :D

Btw, congrats for your win on Verzehrer!
But I can't say that the hardest is already behind you, because your bracket part is damned tough :O

@Plat: thx

Edited 8/5/2016 03:52:54
AWP World Tour - Grand Slam - Old 1v1 ladder: 2016-08-05 15:52:59


Tac(ky)tical 
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Ha-ha I've noticed. Once the tournament started I got excited with all the competition haha. Thanks for making the tournament I'm enjoying playing :)
AWP World Tour - Grand Slam - Old 1v1 ladder: 2016-08-08 03:00:41


Ox
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Screw me and my lousy predictions =D



Gotta satisfy my tweenage girl fanbase :*

So while everyone else watches the Olympic results, here's the thing I'm genuinely more interested in, because the Olympics are boring with Team GB and no team to actually root for ._.



Congratulations Oh! Keep going, even though you've lost all your hair stressing about my lousy prediction ._.



And Reza moves forward, to meet awesomeusername in the next round. Prediction-wise, it doesn't matter who wins, because either way it's a massive fail, with me stupidly overrating Turtle >_>



2 correct predictions. As Legi himself would say: "Ay! Wop wop!"



Looking into the second round, Chshee-hoo has beaten Onoma, as expected. Turkish needs to beat Mirror for everything to line up, to get 8 competitors in a row correct! :O

And now a message from our sponsors.



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Nobody expects the AHoL inquisition! DanWales found himself victim to the "I spilled mayo on my caps lock key" CONQUISTADORS, as the drunkard beats over the sheep.



Another victory for Sultan- Suwtan? Suwwatan? *shrug* Oh well, Sułtan. Congrats!



Another correct lousy prediction sees dry-clean-only up against the winner of Muli v Buns; perhaps one of the hardest Round 1 matchups.



As expected. Now here is the reason, why the right bracket will get to the finals before all left bracket round 2 games are over. At least, if this game is anything at all like the P/R league.



So yeah... screw me and my lousy predictions :D

I don't know what to say other than, GG to these bottom 4 ones. Every winner from each of these 2nd rounds is a loss ;_;

Well, at least DR. Love won, which was correct.



Ahahahaha >:D Upset successfully predicted!



Ouch. 2 wrong first-round predictions lead to an impossible 2nd round. I guess Njord will win, but my credibility is worse than Fox News, so who knows? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯



Now this is very interesting. Some correct, some wrong. I don't even know who ThePlayer is, but whoever he is, ruined my guess that Pushover would beat him, on the basis that I have no clue who ThePlayer is x_x

Disregarding that ramble of nonsense, if Hades beats ThePlayer and tommy, then I guess this section is saved.



This is actually 2 separate brackets. In the top, I was right with Nox and wrong with SexMachine (what a name). Lower down, looks like ps beat Matthijs. "I hate Weighted Random".



lousy predictions!




Another 2nd round game went as expected



A real shocker :O NL has a decent track record in this tourney, just from surfpizza and Matthjis.



The 1 prediction I knew I could rely on, 100%. I thought triple-picking USA was smart >_>
AWP World Tour - Grand Slam - Old 1v1 ladder: 2016-08-08 03:23:58

[wolf]japan77
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Gotta satisfy my tweenage girl fanbase :*
So zeph?
AWP World Tour - Grand Slam - Old 1v1 ladder: 2016-08-08 03:30:19


Ox
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lolno, i'm talking about people who care about this more than shooting up olympians
AWP World Tour - Grand Slam - Old 1v1 ladder: 2016-08-08 08:03:29


Legi
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Ay! Wop wop! thanks again for your lousy predictions! :P was interesting to read them.

there were some surprising winners and i'm sure we will have some more in the second round.

EDIT: and ofc a big thanks to Ekstone for that wonderful Tournament-Series!

Edited 8/8/2016 08:04:29
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