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McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 16:44:28


indibob
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Just wondering how you all think McDonalds and companies like them will adjust if there's a $15 minimum wage.

Will they
A) cut down on jobs and make their employees work even harder for their money

b) Cut down on jobs and instead invest in more automation

c) Raise prices to cover the additional wages

d) close outlets and redistribute remaining staff

e) swallow the extra costs, making a much smaller profit overall

f) some other solution
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 16:53:17


Deutschland
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B
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 16:53:56


Deutschland
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The highest minimum wage in the world is 10.40 so im guessing B
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 16:57:09

Nauzhror 
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G) It won't happen so who gives a shit.
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 16:58:31


Deutschland
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In my state it will

Edited 7/28/2016 16:58:41
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 16:59:01


Deutschland
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also Hawaii California Washington oregon
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 16:59:10


l4v.r0v 
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G & B - it won't happen, but they'll do B anyway because a robot with low maintenance costs and a reasonable lifespan will always be cheaper than a human in the long run.
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 17:03:20


Leibstandarte (Vengeance)
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You want 15 Dollars for burger flippin'? Alright, fuck you.
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 17:37:45


indibob
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I agree B is the most logical solution, but who will that affect most? Minorities. leaving an even greater proportion of them out of work and joining the officially poverty stricken.
How will they react?
They will likely riot and resort to illegal activities to survive.
Yet 80%+ of minorities will vote Democrat.....
I simply don't get it
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 17:51:41

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"leaving an even greater proportion of them out of work"

Yeah, because the current ~5% unemployment is so bad. Anyone not working right now doesn't want a job. Anyone who tells you otherwise is lying.

Additionally, what good is a job if the job doesn't actually pay you enough to live off of it? I assume your solution is that anyone with a job at McDonalds should get a second job and work 80 hours a week. Yeah, no, fuck that. Every job needs to pay a living wage.

$15 a hour is not much, companies would not need to raise prices much at all to counteract such wages.
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 17:56:06


Genghis 
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5% is not a statistic of unemployment it's those who are on benefits or in the system.
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 18:03:54


Zephyrum
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15$ an hour IS much for the effort and prerequisites putting on stage. Increasing minimum wage only creates automation and less jobs. Which increases the issue of unemployment.
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 18:13:03


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Additionally, what good is a job if the job doesn't actually pay you enough to live off of it?


Obviously a lot of good to a lot of people, since around 23 million or 18% of all workers are currently on minimum wage jobs.

I assume your solution is that anyone with a job at McDonalds should get a second job and work 80 hours a week.


There are 24 hours in a day. It's not too much to ask that you work 8-16 of these five days a week to get enough money to live if you need to do that.

Yeah, no, fuck that. Every job needs to pay a living wage.


This is a pretty bogus thing to say. Some work just isn't worth very much money, and forcing companies to pay $600 a week for work that they're currently paying $290 a week for will definitely cause most of that work (which now costs more than twice as much) to simply disappear.

Also, it isn't even necessarily true that all minimum wage workers need a living wage. Most of the people making minimum wage are actually teenagers or young adults who are likely still living with their parents.

Edited 7/28/2016 19:15:05
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 18:13:37


Major General Smedley Butler
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Well considering 42% of the working population makes 15$ or under I think it'll affect more than McDonalds.

Edited 7/28/2016 18:15:50
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 19:03:05


Major General Smedley Butler
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Yeah, because the current ~5% unemployment is so bad

Unemployment for blacks is 9.2%
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 19:06:55


GeneralPE
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The real unemployment rate (adults without jobs that aren't looking for one) is 37.4 percent
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 19:07:10


Жұқтыру
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I mean this with the least offence to those who uphold minimal wage...but you can't inforce minimal wage, what are you talking about? Minimal wage will always be 0$/hour for doing nothing. Furthemore, 15$ each hour is very high for a "living wage"...working 3 hours a day gets you the average wage in Belarus.

Edited 7/28/2016 19:10:17
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 19:11:44


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"and forcing companies to pay $600 a week for work that they're currently paying $290 a week for will definitely cause most of that work (which now costs more than twice as much) to simply disappear."

yeah there is no fast food in my contry, fuck the idea of a living wage for one job
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 19:22:09


Major General Smedley Butler
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Tsh, there's 28 McDonalds in your country, and there's 181 in Colorado, which is a state with around the same number of folk.
McDonalds and minimum wage: 2016-07-28 19:38:56

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"Furthemore, 15$ each hour is very high for a "living wage"...working 3 hours a day gets you the average wage in Belarus."

This is super fucking relevant to compare wages somewhere average rent is $790 a month as opposed to $240.

So working 3 hours is more akin to working 10 hours. So hey work 10 hours, at $15 a hour, for a similar wage to what you're claiming in Belarus. Except of course said people aren't making $15 a hour, they're making more like $9 a hour, so what you're actually asking is that people work 16.5 hours a day.

"Obviously a lot of good to a lot of people, since around 23 million or 18% of all workers are currently on minimum wage jobs."

Said workers are getting supplementary support from the government. ie. Taxes, ie. Me, and all the other American citizens.

Here's a novel idea, I could not have my tax money go to you, your employer could just pay you better instead, and taxes could be reduced. Sure, maybe prices will increase at businesses who now have to pay their workers reasonable salaries, but once I'm no longer paying those peoples salaries instead I now have more money to spend at such businesses.

Edited 7/28/2016 19:42:39
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