Why are you even arguing about this? Fascism is doomed anyway.

Yup, I see people every day that say, "I'm sick of having a say in who our leader should be."

It won't produce fascists, it'll just produce angry folk. What political ideology they pick, will depend on who's dominant in the anti-current government scene, and that's mostly libertarians, right wing populists, and democratic socialists.

All the ideologies you listed are democratic. People want centralization of power.

No, they don't. They want free crap and someone acting hard on the television to some poor schmuck in another country.

And if you ask citation, please provide one for your claim.

People most certainly want centralization of power. Its evident in the emphasis placed upon the elections of heads of state each yr in various western nations.

They want a authoritarian (economically and socially) leader, yes, but not a lack of elections.

Most people have misgivings about the electoral process and would most certainly sacrifice it for accountability

The majority of folk that do have these misgivings, oppose a lack of democracy, and want more of it. Look at all the Sandroids/Bern victims. They all call themselves Democratic Socialists, and want more of it along with free stuff.

The Trump supporters, throw a big fit over vote rigging.

Clinton doesn't have supporters.

Also, governments will never be truly accountable, as they get their money either way. If statists think the majority of folk will pay if their government is good, and want to fix it, that's where they should go. Making taxation optional. Then again, that's going into a weird area regarding ideology.

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Taxation is oppression.

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They're a minority and they want centralization of power.

They were a very large minority.

Not because they love democracy but because it threatens Trumps chance of winning.

Or maybe it's because they don't want folk deciding who rules them without their consent.

Only democratic governments are unaccountable

Authoritarian government types are the least accountable government types. What do you if your leader does idiotic stuff? Shut up or die. At least with democracy there's some hope of accountability.

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But having government means you have to have taxes mmm so you are anachrist and atheist, aren't you really, 1416?

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Statism is a religion. If you are a statist, you cannot be a monotheist. Who do you pray to, ALLAH, or RUTTE, Mr. squiggles?

People complain about corruption whether it exists or not. Deal with it.

I did, but I couldn't stop laughing at this:
You've contradicted yourself. You've gone back on your statement regarding centralization of power. Most people have misgivings about the electoral process and would most certainly sacrifice it for accountability.

The electoral process is about accountability. You fuck up while in office, you get voted out next election. Accountability, see?

In a monarchy an unpopular monarch will be disposed of by some means

What means?

'' having government means you have to have taxes''

No it doesn't

How does the government make money then? Running a country is expensive.

In a monarchy an unpopular monarch will be disposed of by some means

What means?

Death, generally. Which means that the successor will be the guy who killed him.

assassination, murder, flight, relinquishment of duty

So coups. Coups, which will have unstable governments, often going into civil wars.

''How does the government make money then? Running a country is expensive.''

charitable donations
I might stop laughing soon. Who would honestly want to donate to a government when they have no say in what the government does?

politicians don't care about public service or being in office, they care about getting into office, getting money and getting out.
Not true. Take John Key, the current PM of New Zealand. He donates his 448,000 NZD salary to charity.

You call it usury, I call it loan-sharking.
'Tis irrelevant

''I might stop laughing soon. Who would honestly want to donate to a government when they have no say in what the government does?''

I would
In that case I have a bridge to sell you. On the moon.

''Not true. Take John Key, the current PM of New Zealand. He donates his 448,000 NZD salary to charity.''

1 example out of millions of bureaucrats most of whom have probably accepted a bribe or have done something because they were blackmailed or extorted.
One successful person. The others weren't successful.