Logical Fallacy of the day: Appeal to Authority.

Also the answer to my pop question, from my last post as to "what logical fallacy is this"

Just because the government says something doesen't mean it is automatically valid.

Now, you are 0/1 in my fallacy questionnaire. Next question:

What logical fallacy are you using here?

We don't ban burqas in other country

Until you can give me something without using logical fallacies, there isn't a single rational person who will think your arguements are reputable. Just do yourself, warlight, and your own critical thinking a favor and Look them up! You will have to learn them in secondary school eventually anyway.

So you still say they can brake the rules for one reason - that they don't like them?

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Let me tell you, we're free to do what we want in OUR country

Besides the fact that you sound like a communist with all of this "our" nonsense, you still haven't justified the law, just saying that you have the ability to make this a law doesn't justify it.

So you still say they can brake the rules for one reason, they don't like them?

You really need to learn English

Its not normal that people wear something that no one did ever in bulgaria. Thanks for not-understanding.

Its not normal that people wear something that no one did ever in bulgaria.

It is not your right to legislate what folk can and cannot wear

Oh, right. But me, and no one in Bulgaria likes to see bodies without heads. So goodbye, I'm not gonna argue with the most deluded american.

But me, and no one in Bulgaria likes to see bodies without heads

Your rights are not being violated

So goodbye, I'm not gonna argue with the most deluded american.

You're an illiterate yurt dweller, you're the deluded one here

So you still say they can brake the rules for one reason - that they don't like them?

Did I say that? no. Please re-read my prior statement and come to a proper conclusion. And stop with the red herring please.

You should just stop arguing if you can't make a proper argument. Just about every single statement you state has a fallacy in it.

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http://www.relativelyinteresting.com/know-your-logical-fallacies/

Devoted Muslims other than those of Ahmediya and other non-Sharia sects are not fine.

A Muslim is not of Ahmediya. And a Muslim always believe in the Law of ALLAAH.

Alright Aura, so according to you, a logical fallacy is wanting the rules to be followed. Good. You BRAKE all the records of idiotism. Congratulations!

Red herring with a side of ad hominem. good for you.

They are not rules, Bayern. They are a widely accepted procedure of proper writing that has been used for 1000s of years. You will doom yourself to failure of any secondary composition class if you don't learn and abide by them. Which is apparently what you want.

Don't criticize what you don't know. There are hundreds of millions of acclaimed individuals who are acclaimed just because they abide by this. This is the epitome of all comprehensive literature that was ever made and regarded as valid.

But if you want to ignore the fallacies, then you will forever doom yourself to a life being viewed as a bogus fool. And the only people who will ever listen to you are fools. You will be doomed to being ridiculed by professors, and you doom yourself to never getting into an acclaimed university. Maybe some two year institution, or a lesser four year, but you are dooming yourself.

Unless you want to become a politician...

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Bayern, you made 5 posts on this page alone, and still haven't said anything other than,

"It is the rule. They should not break the rules."

Answer these questions without arbitrarily resorting to "it is the rules".

1) How does someone wearing a burqa impact you?
2) Why does this give you the right to legislate what people can and cannot wear?
3) In what way are you harmed by someone wearing a burqa?
4) In what way does banning burqas benefit Bulgarian society?
5) Are more people being alienated in a country that permits burqas, or bans burqas?
6) Should Bulgaria try to be more accepting?
7) If not, then why?

Ox:
1) I don't like seeing people without faces.
2) Is it a problem for them to not wear something no one in the country they are wants?
3) Same as 1.
4) It won't make Bulgaria Syria.
5) alienated?
6) Yeah, but only for LEGIT people (possibly you get you'd need an ID to pass a border outside Shengen

only for LEGIT people

You are not LEGIT, Bulgaria throws you out, it will.

1) I don't like seeing people without faces.

Okay, so the impact that burqas have is that they make Kalin feel sad. Clearly this is a first world problem trapped in a second world country. Because the worst impact he could think of is "I DON'T LIKE IT. SHUT IT DOWN" I can conclude that there is not a big impact with burqas.

2) Is it a problem for them to not wear something no one in the country they are wants?

Yes, it is a problem. People who wear burqas are faithful to their religion. I don't believe that their religion is right, but they can choose to believe what they want to. There isn't so much of a problem with removing burqas, as there is with *only* removing burqas. If you want to remove them: remove all religious symbols, like France has. It's inherently discriminatory to ban 1 religious item but not all.

To summarise: The problem? It can make Islamic women feel bad. There are more Islamic women than there are Kalins, and as such, from a comparative standpoint, Kalin's side only benefits him, and my side benefits all Islamic women living in Bulgaria.

3) Same as 1.

Ah, so not only are burqas an impact to you, but a *harm* as well. Because of this, Kalin is clearly being harmed because of burqas, because THEY IMPACT HIS LIFE. When he sees a burqa, he doesn't want to look away. He doesn't want to look at all the women who don't wear burqas. He wants to concentrate on the ones that do, and make those women central to his existence because they matter to him.

You are not harmed by looking at a burqa. Get over yourself.

4) It won't make Bulgaria Syria.

If your goal is to make sure that Bulgaria is less Islamic, there are a couple of ways I can respond.

a) You are a fucking racist pig and I'm glad you have no position of power in the real world
b) *EVEN IF* making Bulgaria less Islamic has benefits: How does banning burqas cause this?

(From point to point)

1. If Bulgaria bans burqas,
2. Then Islamic women will feel like they have their rights being taken away
3. This will grow resentment in the Islamic community in Bulgaria
4. And Muslims typically breed faster than non-Muslims
5. As a result, you'll have a quickly growing population of angry Muslims who have their rights taken away
6. And when Muslims get angry, things explode rather quickly.
7. So terrorists will intervene
8. And this will harm Bulgaria as a whole, because it is not going to "remove kebab"; instead it is just making the Islamic community more resentful, which leads to greater harm for Bulgaria

5) alienated?

You don't have a fucking dictionary? Oh well. Alienated means "disenfranchised". Respond to this question now.

"5) Are more people being disenfranchised in a country that permits burqas, or bans burqas?"

6) Yeah, but only for LEGIT people (possibly you get you'd need an ID to pass a border outside Shengen

Refugees may not be "LEGIT" People by your definition. They are not "LEGIT", because they don't have a passport.

But why? Well, when your country is being torn into a civil war, and there are frequent Russian and American bomb raids on your city, the first thing on your mind isn't usually "Get the passports, honey!" Instead, it's "GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE ASAP!"

The people are escaping a war, and by the UN definition of refugee, these people are legitimate asylum seekers.

A refugee is someone who has been forced to flee his or her country because of persecution, war, or violence.

So yes, they are legitimate refugees according to the UN: Which Bulgaria happens to be a part of.

To use your own logic against you, Kalin.

"Bulgaria should accept these people because it's the [United Nations] RULES. FOLLOW THE RULES AND DONT BRAKE THEM"

However, if you disagree with the concept of refugees entirely then I really hope you never gain any real influence, and just continue to be a lonely twat in a developing country that has psychological issues, and because of those issues, takes his anger out on some of the most vulnerable people in the world; perhaps because they're the only ones below him in the social hierarchy.

Good day.

Can you define LEGIT people for me? Because as far as I know, anyone who is a homo sapien is a legit person...

Also, tell me the difference between a "legit" and "non-legit" person. Please also tell me "why".

Logical Fallacies Used:

1) I don't like seeing people without faces.

Personal Justification (anecdotal)

2) Is it a problem for them to not wear something no one in the country they are wants?

Bandwagon, Appeal to Authority, Appeal to Tradition.

4) It won't make Bulgaria Syria.

Slippery Slope

(Well, this isn't even an argument. Its just an opinion.)

6) Yeah, but only for LEGIT people (possibly you get you'd need an ID to pass a border outside Shengen

(Not an argument.)

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How do burqas benefit Muslim women? They are chained by their families and by banning the burqa we are removing their chains.

That isn't true. Muslims feel that the burqa is a representation of modesty and politeness in an otherwise highly sexualized society.

After ISIS has been removed from certain places women happily burned their burqas.

This is an outlying case that is not an accurate representation of the majority of the Muslim population. You are using the logical fallacy of "stacking the deck" here.

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I should also mention Bayern, your refusal to recognize the validity of logical fallacies is a logical fallacy: Personal Incredulity

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^All people deserve to be respected but not all beliefs. A person can not demand women's rights in the West for example without demanding the same in Saudi Arabia without being inconsistent.

Could you deliberate?

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