Yes. But these are not humans. You must stay in the country in which you're born unless there's a really obvious reason to go out.

There's not "Real" people. Just people. You're all equal. This isn't hard to understand.

And no, people move countries as they please: For work, for education, to experience new things, etc.

You don't decide the "right" reason to emigrate.

Your family came from Africa, all humanity came from Africa. Your family emigrated, just like the people you're attempting to refer to as sub-human right now.

They don't move to work! That is A problem! If they came in Germany, with IDs, and started going to work, they would've deserved the money they get! Everyone who has a real ID and wants to go somewhere to work is welcome! Assume they came to USA. What would you do? You would say: „Come here, take my home. You came here, so we should give you everything.“ Or you would start to swear at them?! Be honest at least once!

Humans are not equal.
+1. Congratulations, you finally said something right! Humans that WORK are equal. Humans that DON'T WORK are equal, but less than humans that WORK. Humans that DON'T work but WANT money are equal, but even less than humans that DON'T WORK. Humans that make attacks are equal. And they're equal to insane, crazy, mad, and some more words too.

Most immigrants are not looking for a handout. They're looking for somewhere better to live, work, raise their families, contribute to society, etc.

(in reference to your post at 22:52:)

Okay, from what I can see there are two things that have the potential to offend in your statement:

1. "monkeys": If I understand correctly, and also as someone mentioned earlier, this is a slur (and a slur based on race, I think, correct me if I'm wrong). A slur is offensive in itself, but it also generalises everyone from a particular race. It leaves no room for individual circumstances. What if the 'monkeys' would die if they stay in Africa or Syria? What if they need to immigrate to Europe to save themselves and their family? Your statement comes off as absolute and doesn't appear to consider the plight and the trauma that drove these refugees to leave their countries in the first place.

2. "If they're from... stay in there!": This is also another generalising statement, which condemns everyone from a certain group without consideration of individual circumstances.

Overall, your statement also fails to substantiate itself. Why is it a bad thing that they are coming to Europe? I understand that you explained this later, but as a standalone your statement can arouse indignation fairly easily.

Here's how I would have said it (not necessarily the optimum, but you probably get the idea):

"While I don't think it's a bad thing that these refugees are fleeing the chaos in their country, I believe this large-scale migration poses many problems to the countries they flock to. The sheer number of refugees put a strain on national social budgets, and the open borders between EU countries make it impossible to keep track of refugee travel once they enter Europe, making anti-terrorism protection much harder. *Also, in my opinion, many of them come with a sense of entitlement and expect to be supported financially*, or take up domestic jobs and deprive local people of much-needed employment."

*this point is the hardest to substantiate because it's difficult to get evidence for it

Overall, the objective is to point fingers less and concentrate more on constructive criticism. Yes, we all agree that terrorism is horrible and terrorists are horrible people; but not every African or Syrian is a terrorist, and just saying that terrorists are horrible people doesn't really change anything (worst case scenario, you're misunderstood for a racist). More importantly, what policies lead to increased risks of terrorism? What other problems occur as a result of these policies? And often it helps to acknowledge that any decision, regardless of how poorly misguided it is, often has its foundation in practical concerns. Obviously Europe isn't opening it's borders to refugees for no reason whatsoever. Acknowledging that they have their reasons for doing what they did is another step to making you seem more mature and your arguments considered.

(sorry everything is so long, I tend to write a lot)

If they don't have an ID they shouldn't be able to pass any border different from Shengen.

*this point is the hardest to substantiate because it's difficult to get evidence for it
Except that they can be seen on any street, I guess?


Now should I say my thing for about 100th time? Answer: Yes.

Those „refugees“ can be divided on three groups.
1. Refugees - The ones that stay in the camps EU have made for them.
2. Immigrants - All the people who go to Germany and don't do anything there except of begging.
3. Terrorists - Not wanting to say it, to not make them attack again.

Total for all groups: They can be let to pass the borders, but with someone to lead them to the nearest camp AND LOCK THEM THERE.

You are embarrassing yourself.

Looks like you've got the conversation wrong, this one is not the talking-to-yourself one.

Bayern Munchern is the Best , I have one thing, and one thing only, to say to you, as, from my standpoint, The Usurper is hitting the nail on the head here.

You need to think! And you need to think rationally and hard. I know that this is difficult for a 12 year old, emotionally charged, mind. Your brain is still developing, and quite a bit has yet to be figured out up there.

However, I want you to take away something about how ideas are conveyed from this thread. I have tried telling you to this numerous times, but your emotionally charged mind had caused you to try to personally attack me instead.

For one moment, just put away your emotions.

Take a deep breath.

Once.

Twice.

A third time.

Still feeling emotional? Repeat the steps above.

Now that you are calm, read this statement:

What your opinion is not necessarily bad. Its the way you are conveying it. Its just as The Usurper has stated. You need to realize that when you call someone, anyone "A Monkey", its a racial slur that puts down over a billion people. When you call yourself racist, it means the WHOLE race, and not just those coming to your country. The way you state your opinion makes us think that you mean that everyone who is a refugee is a terrorist. I know you say that it isn't true, and I believe you. However, you have to think about the way you weave words so the initial impression is not "every immigrant is a terrorist". Some people are able to decipher that this is ultimately what you meant, however, everyone has the same first impression on your argument, which thence kills it. Look at the way francisco0002 words his argument. You don't see people getting angry at him, do you? He worded it correctly and maturely, making his case viable and to the point. This is what you need to do. You need to think of a way to argue your point in a manner that wont offend. If you can do this, the warlight community will have more respect for you, and a proper debate can ensue.

Personal attacks and racial slurs are NOT part of a proper debate, and are highly offensive.

If you cannot understand what this paragraph is trying to convey, or cannot get over your emotions to properly understand what is written here, you should not even think about trying to argue, as you will just cause more strife for yourself and the people around you. What I say here is not just applicable to warlight, it is applicable to the Real World. If you cannot convey an argument in a non-offensive manner, using evidence and not attacks, using facts and not racial slurs, the people in the real world will also come to dislike you.

...

Please stop Bayern. You've killed 40% of my Brain cells, just from this thread.

(You do realise most migrants are fleeing the bombs from allied countries, right?)

Well 40% of 0 is still 0, so you shouldn't protest.

No.

40%, like the amount of Bulgarian citizens living below the poverty line.

You talk very inherently.

I said that if I've killed 40% of your brain cells, I've killed 0 as 40% of 0 is still 0.

Thats what these without ID deserve

Edited 8/23/2016 16:46:57

This thread and the behavior of some of the participants...

What do you mean?

https://www.warlight.net/Forum/175040-quiting-warlight

You could follow his example

No. But it would be perfect if you do. Being a top player doesn't mean you should troll all the rest.