http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TemplateID=386623
the original template, with blockade too.

seems Guioma wins for 1 vote. So will be the 1st template right? and 2nd MME ?

I just voted so MME wins by 1 vote :O

well i think don't change much play as 1st guiroma and 2nd MME, or viceversa :P

Thx gnuff, i can't promise it for 100%, but it's likely that next template will be MME.

Also, i've edited 1st post and added some informations about differences between CLOT and official ladders.
(the most important is that there is no force join, and you have to join within 3 days - otherwise game will be deleted)

Games should be created in one houre, next games will be created:
11.12, 15.12, 19.12, 23.12 and 27.12.

Edited 12/7/2013 11:06:47

i want to join for guiroma

I've noticed there is mistake with join deadline: it should be Now + 3 day ofc.
Also, looks like bonuses are randomized with -1 or no change only. I've corrected it, but will leave those games, as some people already joined. Sorry for inconvenience:P

x: you have to use link from 1st page, then login and join ladder. But next games will be created in 4 days.

Edited 12/7/2013 11:35:10

There is something wrong. I am at phone, on wl app, so i take only a fast look.
But there isn't bonus with higher bonus then normal.
I remember in season 8 was:
-1/3 increase bonus by 1
-1/3 decrease bonus by 1
-1/3 stay with the nornal bonus.
Here half bonus stay nornal and half decrease by 1....
Fix this please. And i think you should delete past games.

Gnuff, just read the post above ;)

Sorry. He edited post 20s before i post. Didn't see it.

Yeah, i was wondering that myself when i joined my game. Thanks for update

too late to join?

Silly question, is there a reason why certain players have higher or lower ratings after the first game? It seems like ineffable/tbest are getting different treatment than the rest of us?

@pushover:

I wish i knew it. Rating is calculated the same way as ratings for warlight ladders - by program described in wiki (http://wiki.warlight.net/index.php/Ladder_Ranks_and_Ratings). I've checked some variants and for me it looks like it can give odd results when there are no way to compare players - with such games:
A defeated B,
C defeated D,
E defeated F
we can't say A = C = E. In this scenario inputing results in different order gives different ratings. But, when we make comparing players possible (ie. by adding player G(nuffone) and his games:
G defeated A,
G defeated C,
G defeated E
ratings looks exactly as we can expect(G with the highest rating, followed by A, C, E all with same ratings, followed by B, D, F also with the same ratings).
So i suppose, that there is simply not enough data for reliable calculation(thus the minimum number of games for getting rank). But it's only my guess and i won't pretend i understand exactly how it's calculated (there is really serious math behind that;)). Anyway, I've asked the same question to Fizzer earlier today. Maybe he knows - if not, we can only put faith in Remi Coulom's math and coding skills :P

@banana - you can join at any time

Rating systems will all be very flawed with small samples. Need more games to really tell

I was wondering why didn't i have a game even if i join the ladder for like 2 or 3 days? Is it some CLOT problems?

Well surely if two players rated 1500 play and one beats the other one, the resulting ratings for winners and losers should always be the same?

In this scenario inputing results in different order gives different ratings.

Weeeeeird.

Edited 12/9/2013 07:58:09

In this scenario inputing results in different order gives different ratings.

First picks possibly? Ineffable may be the only winner so far to have gotten first pick, thus his rating is a bit lower.

"I was wondering why didn't i have a game even if i join the ladder for like 2 or 3 days? Is it some CLOT problems?"

If there is an odd number, someone will not be matched up. It looks like it is even now, but maybe he stopped creating matchups while fixing some issues. If you stop the CLOT, it won't delete current games, but will stop running the script that matches people up.

yeah, it's weird, but it surely doesn't depend on picks. Advantage for 1st pick is set to 0 in this ladder.

@sirius - games are created at specific days(few posts above), if you missed the first(and you missed it), you will probably get your first game at the 2nd -(Wednesday). However, like ChrisCMU wrote, there can be odd number of players and you may be the one omitted guy, but in this case you will probably get 2 games next time(1 for sure, but there's still small probability that you will be the unlucky one again;)).