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Multi-day ladder: 2016-11-20 00:44:52

player12345
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if you match with that system, you could be matched against players with a skill level much different to yours in that template only because the average of both players it's similar :/

No, by design the system can avoid this. Because it has an elo for each template, it can pick a template both players are decent at.

one elo per template would be nice but the idea it's to use something way more simple than that.
Players want to know how they compare to others on a particular system. One ELO per template is the simplest way to do this.

Only one person can be #1 on the overall ranking, but many can have a #1 template specific ELO.

The current summary ELO works reasonable well for matching players and could still be used. One ELO per template and composite score could be tracked and used for informational purposes only.

Does anyone else want to know how they rank on individual templates?
Multi-day ladder: 2016-11-20 00:48:44


master of desaster 
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Having a ranking for different templates would probably be interesting, but with 35 different possible templates, the template specific rating would likely be pretty much meaningless cause nobody will have a good number of games played on a certain template.
Multi-day ladder: 2016-11-20 03:38:49


TeamGuns
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A template page with stats would be fun and informative to give good intel on templates:

- Average turn count at surrender
- Average turn time
- Avg. Income gap between players at surrender
- Avg. Army gap between players at surrender
- Average income advantage fliping per game (aka how many times in a game the player behind in income managed to get ahead)
- How many players vetoed it
- % of vetoing ammoung active players
- Ranking of players in a template by wins minus defeats


Idk how much of this is feasible given the warlight programming but having those stats would really come in handy to offer some useful information on warlight templates.
Multi-day ladder: 2016-11-20 23:56:03


Deadman 
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Nice suggestion TeamGuns. I'm not sure how much of that is possible, but we'll investigate it.
Multi-day ladder: 2016-11-22 21:22:19


linberson 
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Can I go down to only one game after 20 games?
Multi-day ladder: 2016-11-23 08:43:46


Deadman 
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Can I go down to only one game after 20 games?
Don't have this feature yet. I'll look into it. But the 1 game at a time should be after 30 games(not 20). If you finish 30 games, I can set your count to 1 manually for now. Just let me know.
Multi-day ladder: 2016-11-23 08:47:53


linberson 
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ok, thx
Multi-day ladder: 2016-11-23 16:27:06


master of desaster 
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I'm in love with the clo-clot! I'm in love with the clo-clot
Multi-day ladder: 2016-11-25 08:28:06


blat.be-bop 
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Hmmm, would it be possible to make the clot avoid giving the same map with the same player multiple times in a row? I don't know if I just stumbled on a statistical anomaly... but I'm playing only two games at a time, and I've only played the same player twice, but we wound up getting the same template both times. It would be nice if I can look at a games against a player and see a variety of games... maybe even exhaust all our non-vetoed templates before allowing us to double up on one.
Multi-day ladder: 2016-11-27 17:14:25


master of desaster 
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https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=12383640

i created this to attract new Players. feel free to discuss templates or past games there as well!

Edited 11/27/2016 17:27:54
Multi-day ladder: 2016-12-06 18:38:08


Deadman 
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The 1000th game has finished on the ladder!! The ladder has been public for just 40 days, so thanks to everyone who's been active. Please encourage others to join the ladder as well!

Fun facts:
  • Clan League 8 had 1089 games in the entire season and it's been running for 6+ months!
  • On an average, 30 games are completed daily on the CLOT. The RT ladder has about 50 per day. We're almost getting there! 1v1 ladder has 120+ games a day.
  • The old randomized bonus CLOT had ~2100 games in total over a 10 month period! This one should catch up to that pretty quickly.
  • master of desaster has completed 101 games on this ladder in 40 days :O
    Nynwhen(78), ViralGoat(58), Uki(57), Muli(56) and Wini(54) have had a lot of games as well.
  • 139 players have tried the ladder. Only 78 of them are currently active though.
  • MoD is the only player to have scratched the 1800 rating mark. No other player has hit 1700 yet, but Wini is almost there.
Multi-day ladder: 2016-12-06 21:44:37


Jefferspin 
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Phobia is currently WR. Im used to it being SR. Do others agree with SR or not. If not then Im fine with WR.
Multi-day ladder: 2016-12-06 23:45:12

Ollie 
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red dead redemption is also 16% wr currently while the most common template has 16%sr.
Multi-day ladder: 2016-12-06 23:50:59


TBest 
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most common template

That is kinda relative, do you have a source? Not saying you are wrong, just saying that for me the most common template is 0%SR. Goes for Jeff too. IMH, Farah did some amazing work finding all these templates, and he pulled them from credible places, I assume.
Multi-day ladder: 2016-12-07 00:47:25


Jefferspin 
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What goes for me? I said that I'm used to SR as AWP and other tournies or leagues I have been in had SR. I dont quite want to look into the past tournies to find links. I'm simply asking what people would prefer. If people prefer WR then ok, I just need to check settings when I get some of these games. Extra work for someone who doesnt want to do any work at all. I blame Farah for everything wrong in my life.
Multi-day ladder: 2016-12-07 00:58:42


TBest 
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Phobia is currently WR. Im used to it being SR. Do others agree with SR or not. If not then Im fine with WR.

Sorry, didn't see AWP in there >.>
Anyways, I was just asking for a source, it is not like anyone keeps track of most commen luck setting used on a map with all other settings specified xD

I blame Farah for everything wrong in my life.

I KNOW! Can he not do one thing right?

Edited 12/7/2016 00:59:09
Multi-day ladder: 2016-12-07 01:56:59


Farah♦ 
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Of course people are used to WR on a specific template. Same goes for the opposite side: they are used to the SR version, even if they're spoons. For a lot of the templates, I checked multiple competitive tournaments on them and took the most common template. In the Phobia case, 3/5 of the template were WR iirc. If it needs to be changed, i'll change it of course.
I blame Farah for everything wrong in my life.
I do this too! works great if there's no French, Injian, Swiss, spoons or dutchies around to blame!
Multi-day ladder: 2016-12-07 02:16:09


Aura Guardian 
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Thank you Farah for including the post-melt Antarctica template! I will forever give thee the flour, sugar, baking soda, vanilla extract, and chocolate chips that you ever need.

Edited 12/7/2016 02:16:30
Multi-day ladder: 2016-12-07 02:18:40


AWESOMEGUY 
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Phobia WR:
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=4209 - Created February 10, 2013

Phobia SR:
https://www.warlight.net/MultiPlayer/Tournament?ID=5442 - Created July 29, 2013


I'm pretty sure Phobia has been popularized using SR settings by the RT Tournament Livestreamers (Gustave, Miles Edgeworth), so I'm also unsure where you got the Phobia WR template apart from it being the original Phobia template.

Also, you're stupid Farah.
Multi-day ladder: 2016-12-07 05:08:53

Ollie 
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true 'most common' is relative. Anyway i have never seen red dead redemption with WR besides this multiday ladder. AWP tour and seasonal ladder both used a template with 16SR instead of 16WR. I don't mind the WR but then i would prefer to have it 0WR
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