Now what?

Are you high?

Not yet. Wait 24 hours or so.

Do you like apples?

What the much more respectable Clinton supporter said

I like coffee.

In 24 hours, Crooked Hillary might be in guantanamo.

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Knyte, why 24 hours? It will almost certainly be known in 8-10 hours.

@Richard: recounts/concessions/any other messes. Some states have automatic recounts if their results are within a certain %-age. Odds are we'll get decent results starting around 9p ET (7h from now) and have a really good idea of what's going on around 1a ET (11h from how). But there's a chance that this election comes down to the wire or that something stupid or another happens. It's possibly close enough that exit poll based forecasts (the ones we typically get from networks) might be wrong at first or get reversed- then again, there's about the same chance that Clinton not only wins but wins in a landslide.

Basically, don't count your chickens till they hatch. Wait a little bit to be extra-sure; if there's no mess 24 hours from now, we can be pretty sure there's not gonna be a mess between now and January.

It's already known. Only two questions remain:

1. Will Trump concede?

2. Will Hillary have him arrested?

Dude, again, the polls were 2-3% off consistently in 2012. Margin of error is a real thing, and it tends to correlate between states.

I'm as certain in a Hillary win as anyone else; I've seen her ground game, I've been part of it. It's extraordinary. This is easily the best-organized campaign of all time competing against one of the worst-organized campaigns of all time.

But let's wait for the actual results to come in and the picture to be crystal clear.

Bro Bernie totally still has a chance bro

This is the same kind of overconfidence that made newspapers print "Dewey defeats Truman" in 1948. They all looked like the biggest idiots of the country by the end of the day.

I think Clinton will probably win this one, but acting like it's a foregone conclusion before the first results even come in is just asking to get yourself made into a fool.

I think Clinton will probably win this one, but acting like it's a foregone conclusion before the first results even come in is just asking to get yourself made into a fool.

Exactly. On the bright side, if people with strong views on either side are open to eating socks, at least we can get something fun out of this.

Bet: I'll record myself eating 15 of the spiciest kind of wings (Afterburners) from Wings Over if Clinton loses Pennsylvania.

In 24h, Donald Trump might be in jail.

In 24h, Donald Trump might be in jail.

Exactly. On the bright side, if people with strong views on either side are open to eating socks, at least we can get something fun out of this.

One reason I want trump to win. I live in Austin, the liberal capital of Texas (and actual capital of Texas). Oh how juicy it'll be to tell a liberal that's lost faith in the US government "so why don't you Move to Somalia?".

@MGSB: Haha, the People's Republic of Austin, giving Texas Democrats a terrible name.

That said, if you take out Austin and Orange County- Texas Democrats and California Republicans are exactly what this country needs to get things working again.

Not to say either group has got it exactly right, but at least they bother to engage in discourse instead of being ready to throw their friends and family with differing political opinions under the bus as "deplorables" and whatnot.

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It's not about the conclusions, it's about the process.

Ideas need to live and die in the light of public discourse. And dialogue isn't just both sides talking- it's both sides listening, too. Calling the other side a "hate group" or calling for their (political or physical) elimination is not the hallmark of a democratic and free society.

I just wish we went back to listening more as a country. There's smart people all over the political spectrum- hell, I'll be the first to concede that there's probably someone much smarter than me supporting most of the policies I find to be flawed. We just have to all be ready to acknowledge that- our odds of being wrong are higher than we think they are, and the only way to really work through that is by listening to (and engaging with) other people and their ideas.

And you know what? If Tim Tebow is motivated to do good in the world because of his faith, I'm not gonna rail against that. It's a part of who he is and it makes him happy. I don't believe in any gods- hell, I'm strongly convinced that there ain't one- but if religious politicians are willing to operate within the confines of a free and religiously diverse society that doesn't try to shove anyone under the bus on religious grounds, I'm not coming after them. Hell, I'll cheer 'em on as they put a blanket on that hungry kid or unite the community.

I haven't lived a strongly religious lifestyle, but I know that to some people that's their whole life- the church is their community. And it's not my place to deny that.

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NASTY WOMAN DEFEATS TRUMP

in 24h trump might be in jail

That's fair. But we also have to remember that a lot of people are living out their lives on the strongly-held assumption that their religion is true- and we can't change that reality.

I support a secular society for sure, but there's still a place for religion in politics as long as people are willing to entertain the reality that they might actually be wrong (which is tough) or at least acknowledge the interests of other groups in society.