But you know what really brings up new jobs?

A crazy ass large scale state project.

Something like a wall...

and do you know what is even better? two walls - to prevent a academic bleed out, something like East Germany successfully did...

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Hey, our "crazy ass large scale project" was literally burning coffee. Anything goes as long as it creates the god damn jobs.

FYI: It DID work, we jumped off the 1929 crash barely scathed. And we didn't need a bloody dictator (ours wasn't a dictator yet at the point :P)

two walls - to prevent a academic bleed out, something like East Germany successfully did...

it successfully shielded Ostdeutschland from the fascists

^^^My friend, please look at our inner cities. Please explain to me why we do not dare to visit Detroit or get out in Baltimore at night.

MA is pretty good. However Baltimore is a disaster.

Isn't this cherry picking a matter of communal politics?

Except... America doesn't have awful trade deals, and they are just an easy scapegoat for Trump to blame.

Unequal tariffs are awful deals

3) Is Trump the solution? - Not at all. He can talk about cutting as many taxes as possible, or lowering all the regulations that he wants, but there is

*NOTHING*

that he can do, that will get *privately owned businesses* (i.e. state doesn't own them) from Chinese sweat shops, and bring them back to *The Rust Belt*. Cleveland, Detroit, etc. aren't going to recover because they have the minimum wage. What is the solution to that?

1) abolish the minimum wage (something that Trump has flirted with). This is crazy, btw.

Stop making me want to vote Trump.
Seriously though, if the choices are: Abolish minimum wage so folk can eat or don't abolish the minimum wage and folk decline into poverty, why would you pick the latter? And lowering regulations and taxes make up for a lot of the cost of operating and make America a very good place for business, regardless of the status of the poverty creating minimum wage.

America needs to wake up and become more like the rest of the western world. Stop feeding your own nationalistic "We are not the rest of the world; we are America" rhetoric. It's incredibly harmful.

One, the western world is going to hell and currently wants to invade Russia, so faff that, two, why the hell would voting for the avatar of Satan be beneficial to the world? Bitch probably wants to exterminate all Slavs or something like that.

wtf is happening I consistently find myself not hating MGSB pls help

It's not inherently racial in nature. It's just about safety. You do not want to be in a dangerous neighborhood regardless of the race of its inhabitants.

I guess almost nobody wants to live in a dangerous neighborhood, so pls dont try to convince me or yourself with those cheap tricks. If fear is the only thing that convince people to support trump you are utterly doomed. there is nothing more hilarious in a horrifying way, than a horde of sheeps running from fear towards the abyss!

However, I haven't heard about Baltimore or Detroit throughout the entire pre-election. Maybe the slogan should have been: *Make Baltimore and Detroit great again, and leave the rest of the world alone*, but it wasnt.

I haven't heard about Baltimore or Detroit throughout the entire pre-election.

follow the election more closely then

neh, I picked up more than enough. and neither Baltimore nor Detroit have been in the main focus.

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unemployment decreased from 11% to 5%

Wrong.

The official unemployment rate is about ~4.9%- however, that ONLY COUNTS PEOPLE RECEIVING UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS FROM THE GOVERNMENT.

There are also:

1). The people who used to receive benefits, but ran out of them and could not find a job but stopped getting unemployment

2). People who cannot find full term work and only do various small part time jobs instead.

Counting these people, the unemployment rate is probably 9-15%. (probably a lot closer to 9 than 15, though. Probably less than 10.)

Except... America doesn't have awful trade deals, and they are just an easy scapegoat for Trump to blame.

Seconding MGSB. If you don't think unequal tariffs damage the economy, google tariffs, learn what they are, learn what US tariffs are compared to other countries. Don't be ignorant.

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One, the western world is going to hell and currently wants to invade Russia

This. I don't want America to become like Europe.

If fear is the only thing that convince people to support trump you are utterly doomed. there is nothing more hilarious in a horrifying way, than a horde of sheeps running from fear towards the abyss!

This is it. Some of Trump's policy is reasonable. What I can't stand is the American electorate was coaxed into voting for him because they feared they were "losing their country" because of his incendiary xenophobic rhetoric (Hitler, Mussolini, Imperial Japan did the same).

If fear is the only thing that convince people to support trump you are utterly doomed. there is nothing more hilarious in a horrifying way, than a horde of sheeps running from fear towards the abyss!

This is it. Some of Trump's policy is reasonable. What I can't stand is the American electorate was coaxed into voting for him because they feared they were "losing their country" because of his incendiary xenophobic rhetoric (Hitler, Mussolini, Imperial Japan did the same).

1). Godwins Law says you already lost this debate.

2). If you think people voted for Trump because xenophobia, you have been indoctrinated and are no longer capable of free thought.

I mean, good-fucking-goodness, of course no one could vote for Trump because they believe he'd be better economically, or because Hillary Clinton put classified documents on a stupidly old server, or because she was an ineffective SoS who basically let four people at the Libyan Embassy get murdered and only got away with it because her party controlled a good deal of the Gov. at the time?

Saying "Trump got elected because xenophobia" is as ignorant as saying criminals get shot because they are black.

This. I don't want America to become like Europe.

Oh, civil freedoms and highest quality of life...

*shivers*

seriously saying this is as pathetic as what some of my fellows-in-homeland say about Belaroos and Smolensk being in the Polishlithuanian commonwealth and it's just pathetic and funny to watch them try to make it out truthlessly like it was awful.

Andrew, Clinton's entire campaign was run on hating Trump, saying he's hitler, and generally being a mockery of fairness. Meanwhile, Trump was positive af, likable, and responded to what folk actually wanted instead of what he wanted for folk.

I swear if the democrats do this a second time, this country will be in an actual civil war. They whipped up such hatred, if anything, celebrities and businesses that supported them should be boycotted, they nearly led us into a damn world war.

Tbh, for what Clinton has done, she deserves to be dropped out of a helicopter. Remember Libya.

Andrew, Clinton's entire campaign was run on hating Trump, saying he's hitler, and generally being a mockery of fairness. Meanwhile, Trump was positive af, likable, and responded to what folk actually wanted instead of what he wanted for folk.

You've really fell off the horse there, haven't you.

Trump's done the same but with more brashness, more likability, and meaningless lozingi that sound and would be great like ridding of crookedness in Washington.

I swear if the democrats do this a second time, this country will be in an actual civil war.

Franklin Roosevelt your hero in wartime and much worse economy did it 400 times.

LOL !!
*roasted*
xd
kek

They whipped up such hatred, if anything, celebrities and businesses that supported them should be boycotted, they nearly led us into a damn world war.

Clinton would not lead to a civil war, you really have to have fallen off the horse hard to believe that a no-fly zone for somewhere where Russia's leaving anyway cares. Even a direct invasion of Russia likely wouldn't lead to war...like the invasion of Pakistan by G. Bush or A. Vajpayee.

she deserves to be dropped out of a helicopter. Remember Libya.

or how about remembering the helping of the Mashriq by Republicans and Democrats, all the other bloody wars she's recalled? And don't implify Trump shouldn't be dropped from a rooftop.

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Godwins Law says you already lost this debate.

bullshit?

If you think people voted for Trump because xenophobia, you have been indoctrinated and are no longer capable of free thought.

Bullshit again? your premise was neither said nor implied.

I mean, good-fucking-goodness, of course no one could vote for Trump because they believe he'd be better economically, or because Hillary Clinton put classified documents on a stupidly old server

why not?

The cities need to be fixed.

I agree with that. But this issue doesnt belongs into a presidential election, in my opinion. Btw. there is an easy way to fix it, which nobody likes to hear: end police corruption by charging policemen for their crimes. Get rid off Darwinism and raise social standards and most important abolish the right for citizens of carrying a weapon.

Clinton would not lead to a civil war, you really have to have fallen off the horse hard to believe that a no-fly zone for somewhere where Russia's leaving anyway cares. Even a direct invasion of Russia likely wouldn't lead to war...like the invasion of Pakistan by G. Bush or A. Vajpayee.

The Kargil war was between forces smaller than brigades in a small mountainous area. It is not the vast rolling steppes of West Russia, where it would be easy for a force to keep going after winning a battle.

And as far as I know, Bush 'invaded' with Pakistan's approval. That's like saying that American forces in Canada are invading.

or how about remembering the helping of the Mashriq by Republicans and Democrats, all the other bloody wars she's recalled?

Wanted to keep it short

And don't implify Trump shouldn't be dropped from a rooftop.

Trump isn't responsible for Iraq, Syria, Libya, Honduras, etc.

Clinton would not lead to a civil war,

Clinton is done, and it's more that local groups would commit terrorism that would spin into small battles and then into bigger ones.

Trump's done the same

This shows that you were never on the horse. Trump was incredibly positive, talking about how great America will be.

Are you out of your fucking mind?

You said xenophobia got Trump elected. Don't just go saying everything I said is BS, you little shit, actually give a god-damn reason why you believe it was xenophobia that got Trump elected.

most important abolish the right for citizens of carrying a weapon

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