so bill, is warlight totes srsly or not? you cant have it both ways.

you just sound impatient, warlighting or otherwise. like people who get antsy if they have to wait in line longer than 20 seconds, or who get really agitated at traffic jams and airport delays. find something else to do in between moves.

I think that making a personal "zero tolerance policy", as it were, is a bit silly. For MD games, if it is a fun, competitive game, I will never boot. However, some people really hate to lose, and it seems they would prefer to be booted. If I am steamrollering an opponent, and they still haven't surrendered or made a move within 3 days, I will boot. Otherwise, I'd still have active games where I had been waiting for weeks. Does anyone else get this happening to them?

For RT games, I generally stick to the autogame template, which has autoboot built-in. I can wait 10 minutes, things happen. Maybe their connection failed, it has happened to all of us. Maybe they had to go to the bathroom, or maybe the SWAT team has just burst into their home. Just let the autoboot do it's thing..
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Texas,
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=1681616
4 days 12 hours, 3 day DB
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=1627453
16 days 6 hours, 3 day DB
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=1242199
88 days 11 hours, 30 day DB 2 day VTB
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=1215908
72 days 2 hours, 3 day DB
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=1207746
51 days 7 hours, 3 day DB
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer.aspx?GameID=1185315
322 days 8 hours, 3 day DB

Crafty35a Used to be my 2v2 partner, and is only about 10 days away from the auto-suspension mark..

many of the players in those games are the old guard and some of the new vets if I recall properly \*not gonna reload them to look*, and IMHO, the kind of people worth playing with..

I boot when you have the chance when the time limit is direct boot in 2 or more days. If Eisenhauer had waited for Hitler to wake up and give orders on D-day, he would have been shot. Because it is a game, if someone is running long I will nudge before the boot time (if nobody else did). On shorter time frames, I will look at the situation and the player. If they have a history of being booted, good-bye to the delay. If no history, I will be patient. Really, how hard is it to log on and say they have something else that needs to be done and ask for some more time(assuming vacation is not active) or when you move and know you will be gone for a weekend to say when you expect to be able to move again. I would never boot someone that requested more time if they move within that time (that is where there is a difference between war and the game).

Generally I don't boot in MD games. Maybe if someone is annoying.

But in RT games I usually boot ppl after timeout.
It's just like in chess u know...
**If u don't like crazy games, don't join crazy games.** I always place a warning in the game title like "3 min direct, 5 min auto" or something like this.

If the guy asks for a few secs, I give it but i.e. if someone is unable to make the very first move within time control, then I feel no sorry.
Yes, it ruins team games I know. That's why sometimes I prefer to say
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in the main chat. But other times I'm not so patient. It depends. :)

If I'm booted from a game it's okay. It's my fault. Next time I'll be more focused.

VTE? Only before the first move.

Read the settings. There is a certain time before people can vote to boot you. There is a certain time before people can boot you personally. And there is a certain time before autoboot. You agree to these settings when you join the game. If you don't agree, do not join the game.

Blacklisting people for booting others is completely ridiculous. If I was into this blacklist thing, I'd probably blacklist the blacklisters in turn. Once again, if you join a game where it's possible people can personally boot you after 5 minutes, don't be surprised or angry when after 5 minutes you do get booted. Especially in real-time games, not everyone has the time to sit around waiting 15 minutes per turn.

Personally? I don't boot the second the timer is at 0, of course, especially not in 2-minute games when it's already in the middle of the game. 5-minute games and the player didn't take their first turn at all makes me boot the player on the 0 mark, but I do warn 30 seconds beforehand that I am going to do so. I boot 1-2 minutes over the mark later on in the game when I realise I just bumped his income down by half or he has surrendered (some people obviously ragequit). If there's no reason for him to leave, and he doesn't seem to be in a very bad position, it's bad manners to boot him. But I would not be surprised or angry when someone else boots him. Read the settings.

The only reason to blacklist someone is if you don't want to play with them again.

Therefore, if you don't want to play with someone who's strict on booting, It makes perfect sense to blacklist them.

ha its kinda funny you mentioned this... if it were up to me I would boot on sight the second anyone on the other team went over, but I usually ask around, or on a team game, ask my teammates what they think about it. As long as my teammate can't say that "I'm being a douche" and "he told me not to" then I don't care, I'm just happy for the win :)

that statement just lowered your w/l stats reliance by about 20%.. and they already suck..

The goal of the game is to have fun. Now i don't see the purpose for booting someone the moment the timer is up. In a team game, for example 3v3, and you boot someone, then obvously it's not 3v2, this is no longer a fair game, but a slaughter. Now, i don't see the point of playing 3v2. If you want to play 3v2, you can create a 3v2 game. Why join a 3v3 game, and yet boot someone to make it 3v2? That's just ludicrious to me. Also in 1v1. when you boot someone, the game is over. You joined the 1v1 game, because you want to play 1v1. If you boot someone, you just ended the game. So i don't see the point.

There are many reasons why people are slow. In multi-day, some games disable "honouring vacation", so if you boot someone on vacation, well, what can the person do about this? Also, not everyone who joins a game checks settings. I mean do you really check the settings in every game you join? Also, warlight is just a game, people have better things to do than take their turn. So what's wrong with waitng for a week for them? If you don't like waiting, you can join another game, or you can do your own thing.

In real-time games, sometimes, people's internet get disconnected (this happened to me many times). Many of those times, people waited for me(because my general boot rate is low). and we continued the game and ended with a excellent game. Whereas if I was booted, then the game is pretty much over. If you wait extra 5 mins, it's not like it will kill you, so what's wrong with waiting? Are you that desperate for a win?

Due the the reasons above, i will personally blacklist anyone who boot the moment the timer is up, because I find that simply unreasonable.

for me, booting depends on the person, the game's situation, and the time.

person:

- friend: never boot
- good/respected player or vet: never boot
- bad/average player, new player: depends on the game's situation and time

game situation:

- the game is obviously over, the player is wasting time: maybe boot him/her

time: anything that exceeds my typical settings

- real-time game: 10 minutes and boot (unless there is a reason not to)
- multi-day: over 3 days and i get the itch

Gui, I would have to amend never boot to, *unless they have shown they appear to be MIA from warlight*
and my MD is 5+ for a warning, if had a warning, likely boot.. depending on game situation ofc'

course I only check non-active games once, maybe twice a month, so that means you generally get games about 20+days..
also, I boot quicker in large player count Tourneys, esp. in the elimination tree, since many of them end up there 'cause they disappear :/

In the start, I felt guilty as fast I had booted someone, (which was really fast) and stopped almost immediately. Now I wait and see if they are going to play, send some messages on so on. Then I maybe boot if its not a really fun game. I think booting for adventage is really mean, and some turns take more time than others (realtime). My biggest mistake was on one of my first created games, I didnt got the hang of boot and thought that it was mean to boot. Therefore I set the bootrate on 100 days. Im still waiting on half the players... ;/

in real time i ask if there and if they need more time i wait i ask and count 15 seconds no response i boot.if there a reason they are gone and are coming back i wait.
In multi days i boot when i can u are given 2 days to make a move in most multi so if u check ur warlight every 2 days then they should be no need and if they have left warlight for a while they should go on vacation

i never boot people on vacation