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Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 14:03:15


H-to-the-O-V
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They think black people are 'objectively less productive and more violent than other races' and the cause is 'culture and genetics' and they want black people to 'please fix that.'

I think this makes Tabby a racist. He doesn't think so, he just considers himself an 'irrationalismist' or something.
Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 14:37:26


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GDP is probably the worst variable you could possibly use to determine supremacy of a country/race.

Black people are not objectively more violent and less productive, it just often turns out that way due to the way they grow up, and the cycle repeats.

I think that since he said "objectively", I would say that that is indeed racism.
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Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 15:27:59


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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The problem is you correlate skin colour with theese figures which does not make sense. You cannot discuss "black people" behavior without discussing the discrimination they have faced and still face. Marginalisation leads to poverty. Poverty leads to crime. You have to remove theese factors to fix the problem, more marginalization will make it worse.
Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 15:51:12

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Flint MI.
At least the coffee's good
Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 15:58:53

Japanball
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I'm sure the Viets wouldn't be a fan of me in Hanoi
Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 16:02:25


Wally Balls 
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Tabby is it true that you had a black girlfriend once and she cheated on you repeatedly with black guys and that's why you hate black people?
Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 16:03:49

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He's macroliberal.
Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 17:41:52


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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"Jews were marginalized in Europe." Yes, in a different and definetly worse way. If you look into 19th century "Rassenkunde" you see the different stereotypes. Jews and Semites in general: Efficient, trade focused but morally deprived and evil. Mongoloids: Organized, law abiding but no ability for critical thought, also physically inferiour. Africans: Physically superiour and hard working but lazy and stupid." Of course the statute about Jews was: "They did not commit crimes like crazy." Exept for when their call for equal rights, their polical thoughts (and there were A LOT of Jews in the Communist movement) and their whole existence was a crime (since the Roman Empire in different parts of the world at different times, there were hundreds of Smolensks happening). You could even say they were marginalized TOO much (well, that sounds horrible, so forget that thought).
"Chinese people are marginalized in Malaysia." They share a similar History with Jews, thou less extreme of course. "They do not commit crimes like crazy." What does that even mean? Crimes like crazy happen in warzones, do not exagerate.
"White South Africans are marginalized in modern South Africa." For roughly 25 years. They also had hundreds of years to accomolate wealth so it will still take time to drive them into poverty. "They do not commit crimes like crazy." Lets look again in 2060.
"Japanese Americans were marginalized." See a patern here? Both Chinese and Japanses were Economic immigrants (with the Chinese falling more into the refugee category in Malaysia, but not only) and therefore not the type of person who goes into that much crime normally for obvious reasons (there are exeptions like with North Africans in France, of course). "They did not commit crimes like crazy." Yes.
"Japanese Brazilians were marginalized. They did not commit crimes like crazy." No need to bring up this pint, you have told of Japanese migrants before.

"So what are you talking about?"
There are diffent types of marginalization that come with racism. See above.

"Not all black people live in non-black majority nations or countries with non-black rule. Does being a ruling majority make the population less violent? Nope?"
That is so full of generalisations, i am not sure what to say about it. You still marginalize the history. EVERY ONE of theese countries was a colony with the sole purpose of extration resources for mostly non-blacks with the use of black-people-slave labor.

"Also that has nothing to do with melanin / skin color. The average Indians have a lot of melanin but they are much more peaceful."
You are right here. It is all about the type of discrimation/marginalization an ethnicity face. An example from your own home, the Americas. What group has the hightest crime rate? The hightest poverty range? The highest marganization of the slavery type? You know the answer, and it is not African Americans.

Edited 5/7/2017 18:21:52
Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 17:50:12


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tabby is fuelled by responses, so just dont respond.
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Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 21:01:08


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Europe is falling, so will NE Asia. I will tell you why.

Funny how Tabby, Cruelest and the gang always claim to have the answers to everything, yet for some reason they're not in positions of power. What absurdity!

I think it's best things stay that way.
Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 21:14:03


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I agreed with Wally until he started using alts to circlejerk himself.
Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 21:23:13


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There is NO evidence that racism causes crime. If black people are really being bullied so much then why do they have a lower suicide rate then white people? The connections between discrimination and suicide rates are firm. Jews under Hitler had 40% suicide attempt rates. Other "undesirables" had higher suicide rates under Hitler than normal.

Additionally, Adults with AS are discriminated against for their odd social habits, ect compared to those with similar test scores. 66% of AS adults have suicidal thoughts, 35% attempted suicide, and 31% reported depression.

The connection between discrimination/marginalization and crime is purely conjecture. The connection between discrimination/marginalization and suicide is historically documented and is accurately measured. So if discrimination causes suicide and not crime then why do blacks have higher crime rates and lower suicide rates? Because Tabby is right.

Edited 5/7/2017 21:24:51
Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 22:08:26


Жұқтыру
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There is NO evidence that racism causes crime.


Umm, have you heard of hate crimes? If you keep up your spiel you're going to soon be worse than Tabby.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/02/28/suspect-in-kansas-bar-shooting-of-indians-apparently-thought-they-were-iranians/

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39072816
Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 22:12:00


Eklipse
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X posting fake news. Sad!
Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 22:46:36


Benjamin628 
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@Benjamin628 Men are much more criminal and violent than women. Am I a self-hating male for admitting that?

Well probably, but no. There are inherent differences in males and females, such as testosterone, which obviously contributes to aggression.

However, there are very little inherent difference between races. I can't name one "Nature" that non-white people have (besides skin color) that white people don't. Racial differences are 99% "Nurture".

Why are facts about blacks racist while facts about men aren't anti-male?

I never said facts are racist nor implied it. Black on black crime is by far the largest in America and many other countries. Obviously. Your explanation to this, however, is completely wrong.

Oh wait..you are all a bunch of NTs who can not separate facts from emotions. Never mind.

You might be confusing me for an SJW. I am nothing like SJWs, their ideology is very similar, and just as evil as yours (Collectivism). What I hate though is the right confusing (on purpose) criticism to them with being SJWs, and SJWs confusing criticism to them with racism/homophobia/sexism/patriarchy/evil capitalism.

Edited 5/7/2017 22:51:04
Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 23:14:42


Wally Balls 
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I agreed with Wally until he started using alts


What makes you think I used alts?
Is this person a racist?: 2017-05-07 23:15:42


Wally Balls 
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And why would that make you change your mind about whether you agreed with me?

Do you decide what you think is true based on how you feel about others with an opinion on the topic?

That's a really irrational and illogical way to determine what you think is true.

Edited 5/7/2017 23:17:06
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