After having watched the forums for years, it seems that unproportionally many people identify with the right-wing or their policies (relative to the rest of the population). Do you people think the same, and if so, does Warlight draw right-wingers or do people that play Warlight gradually become more right-wing? Or is there a third factor that makes people both play warlight and be right-wing?

And bonus question: Do you agree most with with the policies of the right- or the left-wing (In your country)?

There's people all over the spectrum on here (and not just the political one). It's just that the crazy people are much more vocal on the forums.

1. Warlight is overwhelmingly male. This inherently makes it more conservative and more atheist.

2. Warlight is an American website that attracts Americans which is farther right than most countries, especially after the election of Donald Trump.

Americans are farther right than most of the world on universal healthcare, gun control, death penalty, and capitalism.

3. Combine that with the fact that America is the 7th richest country in the world by gdp per capita and the 3rd largest in population and we can infer that most internet connections in the world are held by Americans. This drifts the overall internet to the right.

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Seems about correct, strategery. Though I wonder why women don't play strategy games.

I'd also add that overall moderates simply have nor time nor patience to answer every single far-right post on this forum, there's simply too many of these. At some point I did, but it's kind of demoralizing when people have no interest whatsoever on oppening to science, history or basic common sense.

As for left-wing posters, they either don't speak too much or are less present here for the other reasons. Oh and before you say "but that pro-hillary guy", Hillary isn't left-wing anywhere outside of America...

Nah I would say there is a real bias to the right, even those who don't post on the forum but from playing open games, and not just kids naming themselves "Adolf Hitler" since it's edgy but actual folk who are racist scumbags, who randomly type slurs in the chat. I guess these are the kind of folk who are conservative.

I guess they have more a want to take over the world (imperialism) and this is the easiest free thing they can find for simulating that.

Nowadays, conservative is just the politically-correct substitute for douchebag.

warlight also pulls in a lot of globeheads. just something to note.

no interest whatsoever on oppening [sic] to science, history or basic common sense.

kids naming themselves "Adolf Hitler" since it's edgy but actual folk who are racist scumbags, who randomly type slurs in the chat. I guess these are the kind of folk who are conservative.

I guess they have more a want to take over the world (imperialism) and this is the easiest free thing they can find for simulating that.

Nowadays, conservative is just the politically-correct substitute for douchebag.

Well, someone seems salty.
(By Norwegian standards,) I'm pretty much a conservative. Ask me anything. :)

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@Mister Poof: If you held American citizenship in November 2016 and were eligible to vote, would you have voted for Donald Trump?

Trump didn't campaign as a conservative but has governed like one. Any real conservative wouldn't have voted for Trump in 2016.

Well, someone seems salty.
(By Norwegian standards,) I'm pretty much a conservative. Ask me anything. :)

Therefore you count as a communist in America xD

Keep on going. Your support of Trump's governance + identification as a conservative while being a grade-A douchenozzle pretty much makes my case for me.

@Knyte -No I would not.

Trump and Hillary are horrible candidates for many reasons. I would likely have voted for Stein or Johnson. Had I been eligible to vote there, I would have researched them more than I already have, and picked a candidate based on it. The main problem in the United states is that there are only two large parties. Thus, either one of them can shove whatever policy they want through as long as they convince people that they are even marginally better than the other party. The more people believe in the "wasted-vote" idea, the more true the idea becomes.

However, it is my opinion that most Americans overestimate the importance of the president. Congress and the senate are still the final deciders. The president cannot make laws. He can only block those that have between 50% and 67% support. He can also be impeached and put on trial, or removed by means of the 25th amendment. There is no equivalent for senators or congresspeople (At least that I know of). Part of the reason the mainstream media focuses so much on the presidential campaign is for people to forget their regional and local representatives, even though they are more important. They can take every mandate they so wish to from the president. The most important thing I would have done, was I to vote in the united states, would have been to vote down ballot for politicians for congress and the senate sharing my principles and interests.

Keep on going. Your support of Trump's governance + identification as a conservative while being a grade-A douchenozzle pretty much makes my case for me.

Who are you talking to? Me, TeamGuns or Strategery?

If you think Trump is horrible and would back a free-market, low-taxes, small-government candidate like Johnson, or consider backing Jill Stein of all people, you're not a modern conservative in my book. Or at least not a modern Republican.

I'm talking to Rogue Nikolai Krogius/Strategery. I think he's a damn good example of the kind of character that modern American conservatives represent.

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The main problem in the United states is that there are only two large parties.

It's rather a consequence of the terrible first past the post voting system that makes tactical voting on the least of two evils the most rational thing to do (from an individual's perspective).

I'd highly recommend wathing this video, it's fairly informative on the FPTP problem: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7tWHJfhiyo&

@Knyte If I can only get you to agree with

1. The economy has done great under Trump.

then the argument is over. I win. Here is why.

American citizens will not tolerate politicians or corporate media telling them what is and is not morally objectionable. Its the economy stupid. You may find Trump morally objectionable as do I but GDP growth is at 4% per quarter.

The moralizing of the left is not helping your image. It didn't work for the social conservatives in the past and it won't work for the Democrats in the present so long as unemployment stays below 5%.

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Lmao I'm not here to debate.

I'm just here to get you to cite alternative facts and rant about shit like "moralizing of the left" that reveals just what sort of people have commandeered the label of American conservatism. The country and the world would be a much better place on balance and per capita without anyone that supported or currently supports Trump.

I don't really care about the future of "the left," either. No agenda but to point out how the GOP has been taken over by the kind of people who really have no business calling themselves patriots.

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I'd also point out that the strengh of the economy isn't from 2017, but rather from 2011-2012, while it really started going well from 2014 on. Funny how some people just realized that the economy was working well last year when full employment was already in place on Obama's second term.

Also the economy doesn't work in short term periods, even with the best economists you can't fix shit in the short term, real economic gains coming from present policies start making effects in the medium term (arround 5 years). And last but not least, the budget goes from october of the previous year to september, and the FED chairman was chosen by the previous president so technically most of Trump's presidential term was still fully running on Obama decisions. The only republican/trump change to the economy was the tax reform which started counting 5 days ago.

However you can make a case for market expectations for a slightly better health of the economy as the bull-run is fully going atm, which the tax bill helped by all means. But that still depends on the republicans passing infrastructure bills, fixing the budget and not screwing up on the debt ceiling, all of which are fairly hard things to do when you think...

I'm worried about the US economy, a lot of those gains could be coming from bubbles. I'd say 2018 should work out well, but a big crisis is comming, and it should be worse than 2008...

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