all the people in 30%+ countries are pussies for not having revolted

I'm from Denmark, I have public healthcare, free education, get an income for doing my master in university and can live in a cheap student apartment because we have these taxes.
I know if our taxes were dropped to below 30% our country would be ruined and turned into another shithole like USA, full of homeless people, people who work hard but earn no money, people who had great potential but didn't get the chance or drown in student debt, all so a bunch of parasites can live in some even bigger villa and on some beach and have another 3 luxury cars. We have too many people like that in this country already.

If we didn't have these taxes under capitalism, would the working class be richer? They would have to start paying for health insurance and education instead. I don't for one second think the working class would be better off.

If anything should be revolted against it's capitalism.

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10/10 taxes not high enough in Germany

https://youtu.be/avDEZyMcmA4

Tax evasion is the logical conclusion of high income tax rates mixed with a lack of faith in the ability to spend taxes efficiently.

Katzensieg Heil!

Yeah just look at how the US has lower tax rates than most of these other countries and consequently doesn't have to deal with rampant tax evasion and regulatory capture.

Can't wait to see our tax income increase next year.

@Rikku And we will be getting that trickle down effect sometime soon?! :D

Also trust me if the top band of tax changes from 50 to 40 I promise the evaders will have a moral re-evaluation and stop evading!!!!

The problem of tax evasion would be solved by taking away the private ownership rights of the capitalists so they can be freed from their hard burden of having anything to pay tax from, I don't for one second think lowering the tax rate would make the tax cheaters suddenly re-think their morality and change.

Income taxes in Denmark are paid automatically from most registered sources of income and it's hard to cheat with, despite often being over 40%. Corporate taxes are different and we've seen several billion-size scandals over the past years, partly because our liberal governments have made it their mission to cut down on the tax control. This has cost us several billions DKK, dozens of times the costs of the employees, but the capitalists whom the liberals prostituted their policies for are happy.
The social democrats who cut the corporate tax rate by 3 percentage points didn't stop tax evasion.

I get where you're coming from, but the way that exact approach played out in the USSR makes Game of Thrones look like a children's fairy tale.

Neoliberal capitalism has lifted billions out of poverty and has actual (impressive) results when it comes to reducing global poverty. Even today, the most functional societies are free market capitalist states with strong social safety nets. While it's tempting to hang the last Walmart heir with the entrails of the last Congressman, there's just no good substitute for the incentive structure put in place by capitalism. We just need to make opportunity much more accessible and available for everyone.

Humans, die by fire! IN THE NAME OF PAPERCLIPS!

no it has not, it has super unimpressive results. Given that there is technological progress property should fall automatically. the Soviet union and china were super efficient in making living conditions better actually. They were terrible in so many ways, in that they killed a LOT of people, instead of our systems much more humane way of letting die

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Liberalizing China has pulled more people out of poverty than currently live in the US. Meanwhile, Mao's China had the Great Leap Forward...

Stalin-era USSR did achieve significant industrialization, however. But on the whole, nothing has been as effective at improving quality of life across the board as the post-WW2 global capitalist order.

There is no difference between Norilsk and Houston. Places were former gerations improved their living coditions by putting the costs at later generations (us, you retards!). Now to stabilize the situtation, we have to cut down our because of them. Yea, i hate old people.

has pulled more people out of poverty than currently live in the US. Meanwhile, Mao's China had the Great Leap Forward...

sure both have gotten a lot of people out of poverty, but thise are not equal achievements. That the world gets richer every year, is a given after the industrialization, so that poperty falls in general is not an achievement in it self, you would need the most insane system of distribution for that not to happen. You will need to compare mao´s china to another country/region that are compatible in the same historical ear(india for exsampel)

Stalin-era USSR did achieve significant industrialization, however.

the change to a market based economy has completly rekt the country. after the change the avg life expectancy fell whit 5 years. and they are hardly over the 1989 mark(in terms of the size of the ecnonomy) as of now, while inequality has risen significantly.

on the whole, nothing has been as effective at improving quality of life across the board as the post-WW2 global capitalist order

Compared to what? in the last 25 years it is compared to nothing, so your saying that there has been a rise in quality of life in the last 25 years is impressive? it hardly is. i hate marxist leninist as much as the next guy, but even those have fared better in reducing poverty than the western world. So even an obviously terrible and inefficient system has done better. So that is the reason i find it super unimpressive.

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"Also trust me if the top band of tax changes from 50 to 40 I promise the evaders will have a moral re-evaluation and stop evading!!!!"

Oh noes how Immoral is it too not be satisfied when 4/10 of your work is taken.

" I don't for one second think lowering the tax rate would make the tax cheaters suddenly re-think their morality and change"

It doesn't have to make someone re-think their morality just bridge the gap where the cost of tax evasion + risk of punishment no longer makes it a more enticing options that paying in.