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Religion: 2018-05-03 01:00:37


Wednesday
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>religion is just a tool of oppression goy!

commies actually believe this.
Religion: 2018-05-03 01:15:17


90 \(ºº)/
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psykkoman's comment is a pleasure to read :). He clearly has a good degree of intellectual maturity.

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Religion: 2018-05-03 01:39:15


psykkoman
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Thanks! Liked your comments, too.

Edited 5/3/2018 01:39:43
Religion: 2018-05-03 06:12:05


Dutch Desire 
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Well you may as well give up because you never will, either you believe or you don't.


I totally agree with you Wednesday, as I experienced that myself. It's like I was just trying to become more happy by trying to become more delusional. But maybe that's not the smartest thing to do.

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Sorry wulfhere, your right, so I changed the content in the hope to reduce the damage I caused.

Edited 5/3/2018 07:07:17
Religion: 2018-05-03 06:33:50


Wulfhere
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O RLY

Do you know what "connotations" means, did you look it up? He is saying that DESPITE the idea of God predating Christianity he will avoid "God" because it causes confusion and the point is to make the point he's trying to make and avoid falling into semantic. You managed to turn an effort to establish convention so the argument could proceed, into a fucking point of contention. You managed to do it. Not only did you manage to invert good nature of those sentences, turning them into cancer, you cherrypicked those sentences IN A CONSCIOUS EFFORT TO DO SO, to derail, because your arguments are worthless and all wrong.
Religion: 2018-05-03 06:45:58


Thessalos54[TPBI]
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Wulfhere what are you talking about?

He used 1 word probably in the wrong way, he just meant associated.

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Religion: 2018-05-03 06:47:12


Wulfhere
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you're gay

WOoOOOOOOooOOOO
Religion: 2018-05-03 07:26:13


Wednesday
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''to become more delusional''

It seems as if you're implying that being religious is a delusional state, which is a ridiculous assertion. Its insane to attempt to induce such a state certainly but those who feel god aren't delusional. Atheism springs from a deficit of feeling and theism (contrary to the claims of atheists) doesn't spring from a deficit of intellect or knowledge. What I've said isn't to be misconstrued as an insult to atheists, whether one attributes great value to feeling is entirely subjective and as such its fruitless for either side to attack one another over this point, but whats certain is that those who feel the touch of god experience something very real and very powerful within their own lives. I hate mentioning myself but I felt it for a couple years and now I know its absence.
Religion: 2018-05-03 10:22:49


LND 
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Amen to that, Wednesday.
Religion: 2018-05-03 12:34:19


psykkoman
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I agree with Wednesday, too. If one think of religion as delusion, maybe what can work for him is to go towards what serve him the best. I don't blame atheists for being atheists - their faith (and yes atheism is kind of faith, too) just serve them well in their lives.

I am former atheist. Just things which I experienced in my life led me to conclusion that existence of something which exceeds us is real.

I see I need to write here which connotations of word God I see as misleading.
- male sex (seeing God as patriarchal figure is psychological projection)
- desire to be worshipped (why would being which knows way more that us want something like that?)
- will to punish disobedient (from higher perspective, good and bad are mere human concepts)
- exclusivity (all faiths harbors truth in some way)
- entitledness (any conception of God is human creation and as such cannot match higher truth)

Wulfhere, I would really like to see how my arguments are wrong. I am also seeker, after all, and I don't claim I hold the truth on Source.
Religion: 2018-05-03 12:53:11


Thessalos54[TPBI]
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Your arguments are definitely wrong because.. uh ... metaphysics?
Religion: 2018-05-03 20:15:44


Huitzilopochtli 
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@Master Jz, that's a really good idea. But I'm pretty sure those Mormon folks are racist against my race. It's strange that God revealed the history Native peoples and their interactions with God to a white guy, no? I suspect that religion is just white people inventing their own made-up history of Native people with no regard for the Native's perspective. It's like the Nation of Islam's history of white people being invented by Yakub as bloodthirsty attackdogs or something. I'm disinclined to be a Mormon.

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Religion: 2018-05-03 21:30:32


Thessalos54[TPBI]
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Mormonism is fantastic bro

polygamy... be your own god... NOT a cult... you name it!
Religion: 2018-05-03 21:38:46


Huitzilopochtli 
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why arent you a mormon than
Religion: 2018-05-03 21:42:55


Thessalos54[TPBI]
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An excellent point, time to convert
Religion: 2018-05-04 00:08:55


psykkoman
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... and banning sex before wedding :P
Religion: 2018-05-04 00:16:15


Thessalos54[TPBI]
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Even from a psychological point of view, having 1 partner is always better
Religion: 2018-05-04 03:14:42


Wulfhere
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>a psychological point of view
XD
Religion: 2018-05-04 04:04:16


Thessalos54[TPBI]
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Yes, it has negative psychological effects, you know what that is right?
Religion: 2018-05-04 08:17:33


Cata Cauda
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How about we let people their freedom and allow polygamy with the consent of all partners?
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