My anthropology professor is adamant in saying that race has no biological component, and many (((scientists))) believe this to. But I just want to know how pervasive this lie truly is, so what are your opinions? (If you admit that most scientists are wrong and race is obviously real, perhaps they are also wrong about the shape of the Earth?)

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science is politicized now its unreliable

Of course they are real, but on what way depends on the definition you use. You could make the case that there are pure homosapiens and humans who are partly homosapiens and partly homo neanderthalensis. Outside science, the word race is more often than not, used to discribe ethnic groups or clusters of ethnic groups.
With modern methods of DNA analysis, not only can we now trace the continent of one’s ancestors but even determine the location within that continent.
Race/ethnicity is an important concept because it has been found that different races/ethnicities respond in different ways to drugs and medical procedures. Drugs that have been found very effective in one race can be completely ineffective in another. This is not something that we can ignore in our efforts to be politically correct.

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Not at the level of a biological subspecies (significantly more variation within races than between them- not good genetic predictors outside a few traits, like perhaps the medical ones Dutch mentioned). However human "races" are easily "real" at the level of, say, dog breeds.

I would recommend consulting a scientific text about this instead of basing your views on the opinions expressed on forum for an online version of a popular children's game.

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…basing your views on the opinions expressed on forum for an online version of a popular children's game.

Fair enough

Race/ethnicity is an important concept because it has been found that different races/ethnicities respond in different ways to drugs and medical procedures. Drugs that have been found very effective in one race can be completely ineffective in another.

The problem with that is that it's an assumption about someone's genotype based on their appearance. It's not reliable. I found out through a DNA test that I have Chinese Dai ancestry but no one would ever mistake me for Asian.

Why are you taking anthropology? Are you majoring in liberal arts?

Race is a word whose meaning has varied so much that I'm not even sure what it truly means.

I saw a video before which made the connection between slavery and African Americans having higher rates of certain illnesses like high blood pressure, diabetes, etc. I guess anthropologists are trying to say that race is in a way culturally constructed, instead of purely naturally biological.

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I would recommend consulting a scientific text about this instead of basing your views on the opinions expressed on forum for an online version of a popular children's game.

- Knyte

I'm not basing my views on what you sphereheads say. I just want to know how many of you have fallen for the "race isnt real" meme.

Race is definetely real in humans, and most other species. Genetics dont lie.

And a person that believes that the Earth is flat is automatically disqualified from any scientific discussions.

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science is a cult. flat earthers have always been persecuted by your witch-scientists, so it doesnt bother me none.

The earth is flat. Just look at images of the earth from the ISS, and you can clearly see that it's shaped like a giant crepe.

In fact, every single star and planet in our galaxy is crepe-shaped, and just thinking about this makes me hungry for pancakes.

Buffalo, you need to consider aerodynamics. A plane cant fly into space, because it relies on its wings to create lift by passing air. Also jet engines need oxygen. The curvature itself does the "dipping".

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well, im again tired as hell (and maybe little drunk) and might have nothing to do with this topic, but, i will leave this fragment about race froma movie i just watched.

''Dr. Obersturmbannfuehrer Blaettchen: Anything goes. You bring anything you run into. Nothing but Eastern characteristics. Short, pale, testicles- poorly hung. What do you want me to do with him? [To Gunther] Get out.
[Gunther goes to leave; Raufeisen walks in and stops him.]
Raufeisen: Where are you off to?
Gunther: Home.
Raufeisen: Home? What's going on?
Dr. Blaettchen: Nothing.
Raufeisen: Are you insane? We can't disqualify anyone now. Look at him. A marvelous physique, blond as can be.
Dr. Blaettchen: So what? Genetically, he's worthless.
Raufeisen: We are here to train these boys. We create men here. This is a crucible of men; that's all it is. For you, too, my boy, the world is wide open. Come.
Dr. Blaettchen: One day, he will let us down. One day, he'll betray us. Because, his deceitfulness... it's endemic. It's inscribed in his genes. A race is something homogeneous. It's coherent and pure. Or it can't be a nation. Mixing the races leads to disasters; look at the Americans! Stupid country which no amount of education can save.
Raufeisen: We can make a champion out of a lad like him! With his miserable upbringing, he never had a chance yet!
Dr. Blaettchen: Listen, the Bolsheviks, too, think education's the key, and you are just like them. To them, if you fail to treat every rat like a prize racehorse, that's a social injustice. And they think you can take any pig from the pen and educate him 'till he becomes a greyhound! It's utterly absurd! Rubbish!
Raufeisen: All right, Colonel, that's enough! I'm in charge here and we're keeping the boy.''

Der Unhold,1996.Good movie I would say.

There is no clear definitive line between any species and variants, it's a human made system for making sense of the way animals look and behave. The line is extremely blurry between "races" and ordering them like such is absurd.

But there is a definitive line between species, on whether they can reproduce fertile offspring. The definitive line between variants of a species can be seen in their genome and phenotype. Even though geographically proximate racial groups share overlap, they have recognizable differences that can be observed and classified. There are at least four known Human races, perhaps five, which each have their own sub-races.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Meyers_b11_s0476a.jpg

Mayers' racial map shows three major races with detail:
Caucasoids: europeans, mediterraneans, and indo-iranians
Mongloids: east asians, siberians, indo-americans, micronesians, turks, siamese and tatars (central asians)
Negroids: africans, australians, indonesians, polynesians and dravidans (south indians)

Shitposters get better. It is no longer black or white, it is brown!

edit: the shit

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@ Buffalo That line is not that clear. Need both sexes to be fertile? How much has the fertility to be diminished? What if they can only have offspring in captivity (behavior normally prohibiting intercourse) and so on. The problem with subspecies is that lines are even more blurry because they are drawn on mostly geographical terms. Race isn't a biological term.

Buffalo, there's something called GRAVITY