The face he mentions suicide on an anonymous forum disgusts me because it is clear he is either desperate for attention or he has nobody else to talk to about it. If it is the latter; FIND SOMEONE. If it is not (which I strongly believe simply because of his attitude in general) then fuck him!

His attitude... maybe this is what inspires the posts about us not giving a damn. He has consistently been a troll; someone who posts pointless threads, makes mindless statements, and seems to think the forum is about a oneupmanship sort of idea. He is annoying; we don't like him. He dug a hole for himself (I'm not trying to be close to a pun there on purpose.. :/) so all I can say is good riddance to bad rubbish :P

Hey all,

I think it´s a bit questionable what you are doing here.

If Lawlz really has suicidal thoughts it´s not only counterproductive but criminal what you are doing here. Finishing off an endangered person you know...

Or if he just says that because he´s a troll than you are just giving him what he wants, attention. But I doubt that because if that is his goal he wouldn´t give up his acc, what he is really doing btw I know that and he gave it to another warlight player...

I know you think you have to respond to his rebellious post but I think he just wants to tell you a last time that you´ve really hurt him because he sees the warlight community as family and even if you think that´s bullshit, please forgive him he´s not omniscient... and you are neither.

Hope we manage this here cause like you say this is a game and we should have fun.

Sincerely,
Kazuki

Well Lawlz you were definitely asking for it by making this thread, you know.

Still, Class A schoolyard pack behaviour everyone. Pick the easy target, put the boot in. Be proud.

X and Gentleman excluded because they made a point that had to be made. As did Hauptmann. I think. Ok I don't know. But boy that song will never grow old.

Lol

although i don't believe he is suicidal but if he is... either way this is a serious problem and even if he is a troll it should not be treated like that

woah.

Lawlz its funny that you complain about other people 'bashing' what you say, when you have been doing much bashing yourself. And why do you think people decide to 'talk shit' about you out of all people?

If you are indeed having suicidal thoughts because you're upset what complete strangers think about you on an online game forum, you need help. Seriously. I feel genuinely sympathetic for you. The fact that you play 65 Warlight games at a time tells and comments more than anyone has already told me long ago that you spend way too much time on this game. From my observation, you are always so concerned and defensive about what people think about you and your clan further tells me that Warlight plays too big a role in your life.

If this really isnt a ploy to draw sympathy and attract more attention as X has said, then it has gone too far. Stop. Consult a psychiatrist or some sort. Dont come back till you are capable.

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While I do think the Lawlz bashing on this thread has gone a a bit far, I think it cannot technically be called cyberharassment because lawlz specifically stated that he would not read the replies... I don't know the law well but I think that is true... Anyway goodbye lawlz. It's probably a good thing that you are leaving warlight, for your own sake. I advise you, if you truly mean to leave, get your friend to change your passwords. Warlight is THAT addictive.

There has been numerous studies on suicide to suggest that those that indeed go through with it have a strong genetic predisposition.

Astute point, indeed. One problem though, if that was the case the genetic predisposition would have likely died out thousands of years ago...unless it's a reoccurring mutation? Or those with the predisposition procreate rapidly enough to keep the genes alive before they off themselves...

Logically speaking, it makes more sense that a society that is changing under globalization and rapid technological development has left a portion of society largely isolated, as other studies have suggested over and over again. Also, economic problems can be included since Lawlz already claimed he was a member of the working class and likely to never work his way out.

This feeling of being trapped in a rut and isolated from the larger part of society brings about suicidal tendencies as people turn to destructive behaviors such as drug abuse.

Bad lawlz, trying to trick extremely gullible people like taisho. Very cynical of you.

You're the first one to use my new name, congrats X! Anyhow, cynical isn't the right word as that could only really be applied to you. He never said he was going to commit suicide, rather he said he has had suicidal thoughts because of the way people treat him here.

This game has literally caused suicidal thoughts

I'll be honest, when I try to put myself in X's shoes I get suicidal thoughts as well, but I might be misinterpreting the homicidal undertone. X, don't give in to those thoughts! You wouldn't last a week in prison!

Anyways, back to the point, which is that a larger portion of the posters on this thread don't seem capable of reading simple English, which irks me to no end. If you don't understand something, ask. If you do understand, don't misinterpret for your gain or entertainment unless you're X and want to watch the world burn.

Gnullbegg, that's the closest you've come to complimenting me, thanks are in order I suppose.

Well I did say predisposition. It doesn't mean 100% of people with the genetic predisposition off themselves it merely suggest that these individuals lack a sense of self preservation and when environmental pressures push them they simply fall down instead of pushing back.

So you could hypothesize that one with a predisposition to suicide that has everything go right in their life is extremely athletic and good looking would have no environmental pressure to commit suicide and so therefore doesn't and has 7 or 8 kids and spreads the gene on.

Also you could look at the advantage to a suicidal individual in the evolutionary gene pool. Think about protecting the young lets say a saber tooth tiger is going to attack your child or your mate self preservation would normally dictate that you let the animal attack your child or mate so you can live on and reproduce again. One with a suicidal predisposition would be more likely to stay and fight.

i.e. Kamikaze pilots of japan

I would also agree with your assertion that the isolated parts of society probably exacerbate whatever underlying genetic issues were there in the first place.

Not to mention that it is now understood that environmental pressures can alter genetic structures in individuals. So it would not be to unusual to surmise that given the environmental situation you highlighted that a significant portion of that population would become more predisposed to a variety of mental stresses.

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whatever, there should be no such thing as cyber bullying and if he did as he said he was, quit, hes gone anyways and I can hate him all I please, I cant deal with his ignorance.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.



-Martin Luther King, Jr.

5, I hope your high horse bucks you. Get over yourself.

He never said he was going to commit suicide, rather he said he has had suicidal thoughts because of the way people treat him here.

He said that, but suicidal ideation is enough to get you diagnosed with severe depression. Therefore, he had suicidal thoughts because of his own "illness", which is really nothing to do with us. Unless you are claiming that suicide is a logical response to being "cyber-bullied" or "e-harassed" or "iMocked".

cynical isn't the right word as that could only really be applied to you.

I think cynically because people act cynically. It makes me sad every time. I don't like it when people take deep private emotions and broadcast them for a positive response. It's too self-aware and inauthentic. It's shallow. By associating itself with authentic feelings, it cheapens them. And you, the uncynical one, reinforce this and make the world a worse place. Making me more cynical.

One with a suicidal predisposition would be more likely to stay and fight.

Do you have a source for this?

Anyway, excellent response Taisho. Obviously all regressive genes will automatically die out. And of course, causes of behaviour are always exclusively either genetic or environmental, never a combination of both.

self preservation would normally dictate that you let the animal attack your child or mate

This is definitely wrong. It's the selfish gene not the selfish individual. Male spiders are eaten by their mates after they procreate. In Life I saw some bug work itself to death to get food for its bug babies, her dead bug body was the last meal she provided for them. There's some kind of ant that self-detonates to ward off attackers. Are these insects suicidal? I don't think so. Are kamikaze pilots? I wouldn't agree that is related to suicidal depression, I've never heard that before.

I quote Martin Luther King Jr, and that automatically means Im on a higher moral standing than you? Cmon. By that logic, any intermediary, anywhere can be renounced by "get off your high horse." There have been many documented court cases and personal accounts where being harassed on the Internet has led to depression, suicidal thought or actions, and yes, even suicide. Just because you are able to distance yourself does not mean others are. Maybe get off that high horse yourself?

The other thoughts Im unsure about. "Im cynical because the world is cynical, caused by my cynicism?" Maybe I misinterpreted your message there. In any case, I agree that many people DO use emotions and mentions of suicide that way, but unless we treat them all seriously, the serious cases will get by. Maybe that's why Im not a cynic. :)

And on the final thoughts, I'll have to research those because I had never heard of these ideas/theories/crazy liberal conspiracy/what-have-you.

"Im cynical because the world is cynical, caused by my cynicism?" Maybe I misinterpreted your message there.

You sure did. Stick to the glib quotes, kid.

And on the final thoughts, I'll have to research those because I had never heard of these ideas/theories/crazy liberal conspiracy/what-have-you.

Those aren't thoughts. They're a fundamental part of the theory of evolution.

I agree that many people DO use emotions and mentions of suicide that way, but unless we treat them all seriously, the serious cases will get by.

The warlight forum isn't going to save anybody's life.

WTF is going on with these forums? Hopefully he does not go through with it (whether his intentions are real or not...I have no idea nor do I care to speculate). I have no idea what transpired to lead to this thread, but the forums have gone WAY downhill in general. I feel like I am in middle school when I go to these forums. I used to read most of the threads on here, and now I am down to less than %25 because most of the stuff posted on here is just complete junk that has nothing to do with Warlight at all.

I really think it is time for an overhaul of the forums. We need additional functionality (admin tools), Global Moderators, etc. I'm not sure if it is correct, but someone raised a good point that some things said on here could be taken as cyber bullying. And Fizzer could be in legal trouble if he's not careful and taking steps to get a handle on these things.

We had similar issues on a large basketball site I used to be part of. They appointed some global mods (I was one of them) and we helped keep things civil. Later, a group of us mods made our own site we designed and administered because one of the global mods went rogue and the site backed him.

If Fizzer wants my help (as I said helped design our site, and have been a moderator on multiple sites as well), I am willing to help him retool the forums. If not, I sure hope he is protected legally from these types of things.

I agree with Chris.

I posted my idea in a new thread.

Mulva, you really ignored my main points and focused on what I admitted I didn't know in that reply...

If I misinterpreted your meaning, please explain it more in depth so I can understand you, assuming of course you want me to understand you.

I phrased it that way because, as I said, I had never heard of these ideas/core components before. As I have not adequately researched them, I cannot come to an opinion on them. Regardless, this avenue of discussion is a tangent on the main point of this thread.

You can't possibly know that. And even if it doesn't. it may improve someone's life. At the very least, this forum functions as an exchange of ideas. Most of what you posted may not affect the WarLight community at large, does that disqualify it? No. We are merely having an exchange of ideas here. Whether it saves a life or everyone but us ignores it does not discount the message at hand.

5, don't expect X to take a post too seriously. He posts for his entertainment, not for some greater altruistic purpose.

Chris, as much as I like your idea, the second you nominated yourself I became hesitant. There is not a single player on this forum (that I can think of) that has been unfairly bashed, but rather made himself the target by posting something ignorant or strongly opinionated.

We don't need a greater global censor telling us how to behave. Not all of us on this site are 13. If Lawlz really can't handle the heat, he needs to get out of the fire. If he's not smart enough to do that, he's going to end up dead one way or another, suicidal thoughts being the least of his problems. Genetics and environment aside, sometimes you just need some fundamental intelligence.

I don't like when people say "stop acting like stupid 13 year olds" and stuff like that.. I'm 13 but I don't act like that..