[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-04 22:35:33 |

Furious Lukasz
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Only in this topis! Live broadcast 24/7 from the cruel war between Furious Lukasz and Heyhuehei!
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[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-04 22:39:48 |

Furious Lukasz
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Turn 1: AND THE GREAT MATCH HAS BEGUN!!!
Turn 2: Lukasz started badly, but he will fight! FIGHT WITH A FURY!
TURN 3: Lukasz has broken Heys bonus!
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[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-04 22:41:45 |

Furious Lukasz
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Heyhuehei was defending his 1 bonus and hes done it! Bonus saved but second.. SECOND IS BROKEN! Heyhueheis 5 bonus is BROKEN!!! CROWD IS YELLING!!!! UNBELIEVABLE!!!!
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[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-04 22:42:37 |
Heyheuhei
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Oh, i didnt see auto distribution :(
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[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-04 22:45:16 |

Furious Lukasz
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Heyhuehei with his income at least 7 armies per turn is trying to break Lukasz's 2 bonus... Hes attacking... 7 armies!!! HE FAILS!!! Lukasz's defence it fn STRONG!!! And now, omg, what is going on???!!! Did he??!! What a strike from Lukasz!!!! He almost has Heyhueheis 5 bonus!!!
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[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-04 22:48:21 |

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What a game!!! Heyhuehei looks almost killed by Lukasz!!! What a fight!!! What a fury!!! Lukasz dont know when to stop, he is beating Heyhuehei on and on!!!! THIS HAS TO STOP, THERE ARE KIDS WATCHING THIS FURIOUS ANIHILATION!!!!
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[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-04 22:52:57 |

Furious Lukasz
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Lukasz is punching Heyhuehei time and time again, he has no mercy for this cheap liar! People are screaming, the crowd is going crazy!!! THEY want Lukasz to finish Hey now!!! THEY SCREAM 'KILL!!! KILL!!! KILL!!!' with thumbs DOWN!!!! What a scene that is, I cant believe what Im seeing!!!
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[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-04 22:57:31 |

Furious Lukasz
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15 minute of turn 4, Heyhuehei is down on his knees crying for a break! Lukasz is waiting for him to get up but he refuses to continue!!! He has enough!!! The crowd is MAD!!! They want to see it finished now!!! They know cheap Heyhueheis tricks with the calculator, they dont want to see this tonight!!! They want to see Heyhuehei DOWN NOW!!!!
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[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-04 23:08:31 |

Furious Lukasz
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What just happened was unbelievable. Kneeling Heyhuehei rolled out of the ring!!! He run away!!! BUT!!! THE GAME IS NOT OVER!!! WHAT IS GOING ON HERE??? WHERE DID HE RUN??? Lukasz is still standing and waiting for Heyhuehei to come!!! WHERE IS HEYHUEHEI??? I have some bad feelings about it! Im not sure, Ive never seen such st before, but Heyhuehei is well known from cheating, low cheap tricks and calculator playing. He is probably analyzing all the map from the beggining, territory by terrirory, bonus by bonus, colour by colour!
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[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-04 23:28:39 |

Furious Lukasz
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40 minutes of waiting. Lukasz is going to rest, he cancelled his orders, probably doesnt want to got cheated by game administration that would look up his fight strategy.
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[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-04 23:29:30 |

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[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-05 00:00:33 |

devilnis
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Auto distro - the great leveler ... That's my main beef with the 1v1 ladder is that the game is often decided in turn 0...
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[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-05 00:12:54 |

Richard Sharpe
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Devil, why would that be a problem though? It means the superior player is more likely to win thanks to superior selections. In auto a player can win solely thanks to the luck of the draw in distribution.
I don't know about you but I'd much rather win by skill than luck.
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[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-05 00:30:17 |

devilnis
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Because it emphasizes strategic skill at the expense of skill in tactics, and because it leads to short and uninteresting games where the outcome is almost inevitable from the start unless people are tremendously unlucky or make glaring errors. I'm not saying it's not a valid test of people's skill, I just dislike the nature of the games that result, as a personal choice.
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[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-05 00:44:14 |

Richard Sharpe
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I can understand that... that first turn does have significantly more importance than every other turn thereafter. At the same time, I am not sure of any better solution as random is too arbitrary and can easily favor a lesser player and give them an undeserved win.
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[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-05 00:53:17 |

devilnis
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Yeah there really isn't an easy solution to it other than to have variety in the ladders such as what was already added via the seasonal ladders. There was a big discussion about the bloated importance of turn 0 when the ladders were first beginning, and the best I could come up with was to capture stats for each bonus of how likely a player that got that bonus was to come up with the victory, and then there could be a weighted auto distribution where it would pick territories for the players but try and weight them evenly based on the stats. It would work, but it would be complicated and is thus likely never to happen.
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[LIVE] Furious Lukasz vs Heyhuehei: 2012-05-05 01:00:04 |

Richard Sharpe
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Yea, and the problem with such a situation would be two-fold.
First, you would essentially have to eliminate or limit wastelands as they would interfere with such calculations. (and that is ignoring the impact of starting point within bonuses which obviously impacts the viability of the bonus)
Second, having such a calculated approach would make it possible for a observant player to be aware of his opponent's starting positions based on his own locations.
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