Ha, I've been on vacations. I promise to play quickly when this one ends.

I think Group 1 has a winner now, and moreover all top 3 places are now set regardless of how the remaining games turn out. Congratulations GuestNWHSzY for the win, and PhucilliJerry for 2nd place! I ended up 3rd with a bit of help from Pavluski booting in a close game - and now hope top 3 promote :), as I could not find an official statement about how this preliminary tournament seeds players into "real" groups A-B-C-etc. (if top 3 promote from all 5 groups, does it mean real group A will have 15 players? Not sure what I think about it, on the one hand it means lots of games, on the other hand a single loss due to a momentary slip or a slow pick on a map with crazy wastelands will matter less)

Intrigue is not lost in the group though, as there is an interesting fight for the 4th place (as well as 5th, 6th and 7th): Baer, Checkmqte and Tof all can end up as high as 4th, while Pavluski can be as high as 5th. Baer and Checkmqte have a better chance of being 4th, since Baer has the least losses (among the contenders) so far, but he has a game vs PhucilliJerry which he may lose, while Checkmqte won vs. Baer and with the same number of wins he has the tie breaker. I predict Baer - Checkmqte - Tof - Pavluski.

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Group 2 has a winner too, congratulations dauti! Huddyj is guaranteed to end up 2nd, and I think ADHDnl is guaranteed to be 3rd - congratulations as well!

Edited 5/27/2019 04:44:19

I have said several times, only the top 2 in each group will go to Group A. And every 2 positions after those will be a lower group. 10 players will be maximum for a group in the normal seasons like it has been previously.

So I go to group 5 lol

Nice summary on Group 1 mslasm. I came here to congratulate Guest on top spot and add some commentary but you’ve got that covered!
I think I’ve got Baer beat in our game, but you never can quite know against him.
I did have some luck, especially with first game against mslasm before he had the settings down and against Pavluski with the boot when he had the pick advantage on me....
Good luck to all going forward no matter the Group you end up in!

I finished my last 2 games and if i counted everything right we have a final result for group 4 (although 2 games are still unfinished)

P/R | W | L | ? | Player
----+---+---+---+----------------

 A  | 10| 0 | 1 | Suschel
 A  | 9 | 2 | 0 | Rheumakay

 B  | 8 | 2 | 1 | graemes
 B  | 7 | 2 | 2 | iNsAne

 C  | 6 | 5 | 0 | Fc Bayern
 C  | 6 | 5 | 0 | Taji

 D  | 5 | 6 | 0 | Thorben
 D  | 5 | 6 | 0 | ViralGoat

 E  | 3 | 8 | 0 | Brian the Brave
 E  | 3 | 8 | 0 | lh70

 F  | 1 | 10| 0 | Roele
 F  | 1 | 10| 0 | Dianne Abrams

Looking forward to the next season! :)

Update (June 1st)

Almost 2 weeks since my last update, and while no group has finished, it's time to start showing head-to-head (H2H) results and probable finishing places for Group 1, 2, 3 and 4, as they are very nearly complete. Group 5 will continue to show win/loss since last update rather than tie-break information.

Please note that I will not be covering promotion or relegation information in this update.


Group 1 (3 matches left)

Player            #seed   W-L|H2H  Placing
GuestNWHSzY               10-0|1-0     1st
PhucilliJerry             10-1|0-1     2nd
mslasm              #3     8-2         3rd
Tof                 #4     6-4|1-1
Baer                #1     6-4|1-1
Checkmqte                  6-5|1-1
jac                        5-6
Pavluski            #2     4-5
Star-Lord                  3-7|1-0
GeniusJKlopp               3-8|0-1     10th
Syphen                     1-9         11th
DrowningManatee           0-11         12th

Congratulations to GuestNWHSzY for winning Group 1! The match between Guest and mslasm is ongoing, but can’t affect the final results. Guest has the H2H tie-break on PJ, so even a loss will still see him winning the group. mslasm can’t change position either. Tof, Baer, and Checkmqte are currently locked in a 3-way tie in 6 wins, but with both Baer and Tof still playing, I expect at least one of them to snatch another win to save me a headache. Pavluski is also a chance of reaching 6 wins, so things could get interesting here. Genius finishes in 10th place going down on H2H against Star-Lord, who is still playing. Syphen will finish in 11th position, and DrowningManatee comes last with 8 boot-losses and gets kicked from the league.

Group 2 (1 match left)

Player            #seed   W-L|H2H     Placing
dauti                      9-1         1st
huddyj              #1     8-3         2nd
ADHDnl                     7-4|1-0     3rd
Bohun                      7-4|0-1     4th
rocky1              #4     6-5|1-0     5th
kirdol                     6-5|0-1     6th
Meldarion                  5-6|1-0     7th
KaitoS                     5-6|0-1     8th
Matt431             #2     4-6|1-0     9th
Cata Cauda          #3     4-7|0-1     10th
Menda                      3-8         11th
TianO                     1-10         12th

Congratulations dauti for winning Group 2! Still 1 game going between dauti and Matt431, but it can’t affect the final placings. If Matt loses, he still beats Cata Cauda on H2H, while if he wins, both Meldarion and KaitoS have to H2H in their favor against him. And since Meldarion also beat KaitoS, there is no 3-way tie to resolve which I am happy about!

Group 3 (1 match left)

Player            #seed   W-L|H2H     Placing
Ragnar Lothbrok     #4     9-1|1-1
Maschder                   9-2|1-1
AI                  #1     9-2|1-1
k.o.                       7-4|1-1
SNDBX                      7-4|1-1
Ameter              #3     7-4|1-1
Olja                       6-5         7th
Diestramenos               4-7         8th
s1gmoyd                    3-8         9th
BlacKnight          #2     2-8|1-0     10th
Viking1007                 2-9|0-1     11th
Captain Trips             0-11         12th

Group 3 is in the balance at the top, if BlacKnight can upset Ragnar, there will be a 3-way tie for 1st, and already we have a 3-way tie for 4th place. At the other end, Captain trips has 3 boots, which means he’ll be kicked or placed in the bottom group. H2H ensures that win or lose, BlacKnight will finish in 10th, meaning 7th through to 12th places are decided. Since the H2H tie-break rule can’t split the 3-way ties here, I’ll be digging out the rule book to see the next tie-break to use, but I’ll save that for when this group is finished! Let’s just say Ragnar has a LOT riding on this last match, with a loss almost certainly meaning he’ll finish 3rd, and a win ensuring top spot.

Group 4 (1 match left)

Player            #seed   W-L|H2H     Placing
Suschel             #4    11-0         1st
Rheumakay                  9-2         2nd
graemes             #2     8-2
iNsAnE              #1     7-3
Fc Bayern           #3     6-5|1-0     5th
Taji                       6-5|0-1     6th
Thorben                    5-6|1-0     7th
ViralGoat                  5-6|0-1     8th
Brian the Brave            3-8|1-0     9th
lh70                       3-8|0-1     10th
Roele                     1-10|1-0     11th
Dianne Abrams             1-10|0-1     12th

Amazing result in Group 4, with Suschel sweeping through to a perfect 11-0 record to claim top spot! Rheumakay has done enough to claim 2nd, with H2H ensuring graemes can’t overtake him. The winner of graemes vs iNsAnE will decide who finishes 3rd and 4th. 5th to 12th are also decided, with head-to-head required in every case to decide finishing positions!

Group 5

Player            #seed   W-L/since last update
ARand0mPlayer              7-0/3-0
Hunta               #1     7-2/3-1
bzox                       6-2/2-1
Seggel                     6-2/2-0
The Joey                   5-2/0-0
Dimitris_Wingo             4-4/1-2
Hasdrubal           #3     3-4/2-2
Wiz Wizz Wizznson          3-6/1-4
Kevin Turner        #4     2-3/0-1
NoobSchool                 1-9/0-4
Bonsai              #2     0-0/0-0
吴克                       0-10/0-0

ARand0mPlayer beats Wizz, Kevin, and Dimitris to push ahead in Group 5, sitting undefeated thorugh 7 matches. Hunta beat NoobSchool, Wizz, and Hasdrubal to also reach 7 wins, but also lost to bzox. Bzox also beats Dimitris, but lost a match to Seggel. Seggel adds to that with a win over Hasdrubal, and is looking pretty solid so far. As well as the already mentioned losses, Hasdrubal grabs a couple of wins against Wizz and NoobSchool. Dimitris manages to find a win over NoobSchool as well, as does Wizz. NoobSchool is sitting on 5 boots, and will be joining 吴克 in getting kicked from the league. Bonsai has taken several vacations in a row, and needs to be careful not to break the league rule of 3 vacations maximum, otherwise he may add to the list of players getting kicked from Group 5.

Edited 6/1/2019 22:57:44

Group 3: Its ok for me to be put on the 6th place. If it helps you and you dont want to study the rule book ;)

k.o., I'm pretty sure you will finish in 4th place. On the first page of this forum the tie-break rules are listed, so take a look.

add me to your wait list please

Hi, count me in, pls

count me in

Sadly, due to lack of time, I'm out.

Hi guys, due to being very busy lately I have not been able to provide an update. Hopefully in the next week sometime I'll be able to post one. Still a long way to go in Group 5, but the rest of the groups are either finished or very close, so I should be able to finalise them in the next update.

Welcome to the players requesting to join next season. I'll add you to the wait-list.

Thanks for participating Bohun. :)

I'm interested as a new player! Can I be put on the wait list?

can I go on the wait list as well?

The wait-list has been updated. (Check the first post in this forum for details)

No Group updates at this stage. Feel free to post an update on your own group if you like while you wait for my next one!

Update (June 14th)

2 weeks have elapsed since my last update, and 2 groups have finished in that time. Plenty of progress is being made in Group 5, so I have hope that this season will be nearly done in a couple of weeks from now.

Once again, no promotion/relegation information will be provided on this update, but basically top 2 in each group will be in Group A next season, and each two positions lower will be in a lower group. This may vary slightly depending on drop-outs.

“H2H” means “head-to-head”

Group 1 (1 match left)

Player            #seed   W-L|H2H  Placing
GuestNWHSzY               10-1|1-0     1st
PhucilliJerry             10-1|0-1     2nd
mslasm              #3     9-2         3rd
Tof                 #4     6-4|1-1
Baer                #1     6-5|1-1
Checkmqte                  6-5|1-1
Pavluski            #2     5-6|1-0     7th
jac                        5-6|0-1     8th
Star-Lord                  4-7         9th
GeniusJKlopp               3-8         10th
Syphen                     1-9         11th
DrowningManatee           0-11         12th

3 matches have been completed since last update in Group 1. Guest’s hope of finishing Group 1 undefeated ended at the hands of mslasm, though neither player will have their finishing position altered, with Guest winning the group and mslasm finishing 3rd. Pavluski finished two games, with a loss to Star-Lord and a win over Baer. The final match between Tof and Syphen can’t change Syphen’s finishing position, but with a win Tof can claim 4th spot. If Tof loses, however, I’ll need to try to split a 3-way tie between Tof, Baer, and Checkmqte. Tof vs Syphen is on turn 18.

Group 2 (1 match left)

Player            #seed   W-L|H2H     Placing
dauti                      9-1         1st
huddyj              #1     8-3         2nd
ADHDnl                     7-4|1-0     3rd
Bohun                      7-4|0-1     4th
rocky1              #4     6-5|1-0     5th
kirdol                     6-5|0-1     6th
Meldarion                  5-6|1-0     7th
KaitoS                     5-6|0-1     8th
Matt431             #2     4-6|1-0     9th
Cata Cauda          #3     4-7|0-1     10th
Menda                      3-8         11th
TianO                     1-10         12th

No progress since last update. dauti vs Matt431 is up to 24 turns.

Group 3 (FINISHED)

Player            #seed    W-L|H2H(T-B)  Placing
Ragnar Lothbrok     #4    10-1             1st
Maschder                   9-2|1-0         2nd
AI                  #1     9-2|0-1         3rd
SNDBX                      7-4|1-1(29-30)  4th
Ameter              #3     7-4|1-1(27-32)  5th
k.o.                       7-4|1-1(24-35)  6th
Olja                       6-5             7th
Diestramenos               4-7             8th
s1gmoyd                    3-8             9th
BlacKnight          #2     2-9|1-0         10th
Viking1007                 2-9|0-1         11th
Captain Trips             0-11             12th

Group 3 is finished! Congratulations to Ragnar Lothbrok, who managed to finish with a win over BlacKnight to win the group! Maschder finishes in 2nd place with the H2H win over AI, who comes 3rd. The 3-way tie for 4th-6th will be addressed soon, so watch this space for final placings here. I’ll give a full explanation of the tie-break process for those interested, but the steps for resolving ties can also be found by reading the league rules on the front page of this thread.

Group 4 (FINISHED)

Player            #seed   W-L|H2H     Placing
Suschel             #4    11-0         1st
Rheumakay                  9-2         2nd
iNsAnE              #1     8-3|1-0     3rd
graemes             #2     8-3|0-1     4th
Fc Bayern           #3     6-5|1-0     5th
Taji                       6-5|0-1     6th
Thorben                    5-6|1-0     7th
ViralGoat                  5-6|0-1     8th
Brian the Brave            3-8|1-0     9th
lh70                       3-8|0-1     10th
Roele                     1-10|1-0     11th
Dianne Abrams             1-10|0-1     12th

Group 4 is finished! Once again, congratulations to Suschel for winning with a perfect record! The final game to finish was graemes vs iNsAnE, with iNsAnE taking the victory and claiming 3rd place. graemes finishes in 4th place.

Group 5 (9 matches left)

Player            #seed   W-L/since last update
ARand0mPlayer             10-0/3-0
Hunta               #1     8-3/1-1
bzox                       7-3/1-1
Seggel                     7-3/1-1
Dimitris_Wingo             5-4/1-0
The Joey                   5-4/0-2
Bonsai              #2     4-3/4-3
Hasdrubal           #3     4-4/1-0
Kevin Turner        #4     3-5/1-2
Wiz Wizz Wizznson          3-8/0-2
NoobSchool                1-10/0-1
吴克                       0-10/0-0

Bonsai is active at last, and has finished 7 games in the last 2 weeks! Well done Bonsai, and thanks for playing at a good speed now that you are back. ARand0mPlayer has 10 wins from 10 games, and with only 1 match left, is guaranteed to win this group already, well done! It’s pretty tight for 2nd position, however, with Hunta currently there with 8 wins, and bzox and Seggel just behind with 7 wins, both with H2H wins over Hunta, and a game still to play. Seggel just needs to beat Bonsai to claim 2nd place, with the H2H win over bzox, however with a loss there bzox can claim 2nd by beating The Joey. Looking forward to some of those results coming in soon!

Edited 6/15/2019 10:59:17

Ok, this post is specifically for breaking the 3-way tie in Group 3 between SNDBX, k.o., and Ameter.

Group 3 (FINISHED)

Player            #seed   W-L|H2H     Placing
Ragnar Lothbrok     #4    10-1         1st
Maschder                   9-2|1-0     2nd
AI                  #1     9-2|0-1     3rd
k.o.                       7-4|1-1
SNDBX                      7-4|1-1
Ameter              #3     7-4|1-1
Olja                       6-5         7th
Diestramenos               4-7         8th
s1gmoyd                    3-8         9th
BlacKnight          #2     2-9|1-0     10th
Viking1007                 2-9|0-1     11th
Captain Trips             0-11         12th

First, I will post the league tie-break rules:

Placements in a round-robin are determined by number of wins. In the event of a tie, placements are determined by head-to-head results among the tied. Occasionally, there are loops of ties that cannot be resolved by the head-to-head rule. If this is the case, ties will be broken by the following (in order of preference):

1: No. of Boots. Boots are penalised in resolving ties not solved by the head to head rule. Booted players are moved to the bottom of the tie, and head-to-head is applied again between players with the same amount of boots.
2: Overall win/loss ratio. (The total wins of each player you defeated versus the total wins of each player you lost against). It comes down to the number of wins by the players that a player have won against. Note Head-to-Head reapplied after, if this solves the tie for some but not all.
3: Tie-break tournament. (Unless such a tournament would cause lengthy delays for the league)
4: Average turn-speed (Last resort. only if a tie-break tournament fails to resolve the tie, or would take too long to complete)(where a tie-break tournament has resulted in another tie, average turn speed within the tie-break tournament will be used to split the tie)

In this case, the H2H rule cannot separate the tie, as each player is locked at 1-1 in H2H. So the tie-break rules apply.

Step 1, we count the number of boots each player has in the tournament, but in this case none of the tied players have booted a game, so we go to step 2.

In step 2, we look beyond just the tied players, and focus on their overall results across the whole group. This is shown as a win-loss record where the wins of all players you have beaten are added together to form the "wins", and the wins of all the players you have lost against are added together to form the "losses". Basically, beating a player with more wins gives a higher score than beating a player with fewer wins. Rarely does this step fail to resolve a tie, and once again here it has been successful.

SNBX 7-4|1-1(29-30)
Ameter 7-4|1-1(27-32)
k.o. 7-4|1-1(24-35)