hahaha :p waddles was the one who did suggest us to join this so i thought he should be secondary contact, and since rak is our main leader he obviously had to be first so there was no room for me :/

If the goal is to avoid having drama from rulebreaking, best not to have guidelines for stuff like that imo. Just don't get help from people outside your clan (though of course that's tough to police as well I guess).

The 8 slots should be taken by minimum 4 different accounts from the same clan (clan icon must match on the date of tournament creation) with a maximum of 3 slots per account. Not all 8 slots have to be filled every time by every clan, so feel free to skip tournaments that you don't like.

I don't understand the rationale for this rule tbh. If you're allowed to collaborate, shared personal accounts, use a shared account, etc. what's the point of requiring X accounts to be used? Why couldn't a clan just sign up with two shared accounts?

Edited 4/25/2019 20:52:12

Also, ONE! will play. Contacts are Beren (https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=314032996) and PJ (https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=1925535805)

FCC will join. Contacts:

Xenophon: https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=3262000156
IRiseUFall: https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=1669010010

Thanks for the organizing Math Wolf! Sounds great.
Competitive and social with a focus on fun instead of fairness.

I like that every clan can go their own way. Everything is possible from spending hours discussing moves together to having one person helping everyone to just casual playing to creating common accounts.

I support a 3-day autoboot without banked days and without vacation. It speeds up tournaments significantly and makes the cycle time more predictable. Limited time or internet access should be solved by communication with clan mates (or by just playing casual and committing after thinking for 2 minutes on the toilet).

I think M'Hunters can field a lineup too.
However, don't sign us up yet, I'll get back to you.

Hawks will be in
Primary Turbo
Secondary me

I don't understand the rationale for this rule tbh. If you're allowed to collaborate, shared personal accounts, use a shared account, etc. what's the point of requiring X accounts to be used? Why couldn't a clan just sign up with two shared accounts?

Was wondering this as well. Don't want to have to create 4 shared accounts just for this competition.

GG

1) adhdnl https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=7296500493
2) lin

(...) what if the "rule" is that it's 3 day boot? but autoboot is like 5 days or so (...)

So far, it seems there is no real support for this idea and I'm not a fan myself since I rather avoid anything that complicates it. So this will stay as it is now. (3 day autoboot with 5 days banked initially).

Oh also i had a question about account sharing (...) i mean will players know who they will be playing against? (...)

If the goal is to avoid having drama from rulebreaking, best not to have guidelines for stuff like that imo. Just don't get help from people outside your clan (though of course that's tough to police as well I guess).

I understand this question and it would be nice to know. My stance however would be: "if you can't police it, you better don't make a rule about it." (a quote from someone during discussions about CL rules) Trying to hide your identity is part of psychological warfare, so I see no problems with it either in this concept.

Also, it's impossible in practice, just imagine: "this turn, I did my turn alone, previous turn I asked those two people for advice, the turn before: I asked that person, and picks were discussed in our clan forum. Now I'm going on holiday, and that person will take over the account, but he may or may not discuss it with this or this person and if I have internet in my hotel, I'll definitely give input as well..."

Help from outside the clan is not (explicitly) forbidden either, especially if people who are in multiple clans are involved, this would be unfair to them. You might just want to ask yourself the question: why would you want to help someone from another clan? If there is a good reason, it's not really different from helping allies in a war (including potential backstabbing and helping the opponent instead!)

The 8 slots should be taken by minimum 4 different accounts from the same clan (clan icon must match on the date of tournament creation) with a maximum of 3 slots per account. Not all 8 slots have to be filled every time by every clan, so feel free to skip tournaments that you don't like.

I don't understand the rationale for this rule tbh. If you're allowed to collaborate, shared personal accounts, use a shared account, etc. what's the point of requiring X accounts to be used? Why couldn't a clan just sign up with two shared accounts?

Was wondering this as well. Don't want to have to create 4 shared accounts just for this competition.

It's not because it's possible to use a clan account, that I have to make it easy and allow clans to use only one account. It's still a clan event, and I believe there has to be a minimum number of accounts involved to be able to talk about a clan. However, I did change it from 4 to 3 to accomodate everyone who'd like to use only clan accounts, but I refuse to go any lower. Also note that already with 2 accounts, it's already possible to effectively cover all 6 tournaments, so this shouldn't be much of a restriction. In summary: if someone wants to use all alts/clan accounts, they'd at least have to put in some effort to have/create/manage multiple accounts to show that they are dedicated to it.

Edited 4/27/2019 20:15:42

I don't think we were going to use only 2 accounts anyway, I was just curious about the reasoning.

MH is participating.

I am the primary contact. Thanks.

CORP will take part:
Primary Contact: Me-clean-only https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=4419488318
Secondary Contact: Nemo https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=3870701119

"There are no further rules, just play the game. Taking over accounts, using alts, switching clans, playing with different accounts over different seasons, discussing moves with others, playing for different clans, teaming with your alt, ... it's all allowed. You could even use a "Clan account" to play and discuss moves in your clan forum (just don't complain if your opponent has a spy in your clan). Breaking Warzone rules is of course not allowed but will not be penalized by Clan Cup organizers."

This is probably obvious, but I thought I'd spell it out: this also allows Clan Cup to be a great training tool. Learning members can ask questions and see the thought processes of better players - without having to be carried in-game. Not pushing this, but to point out an extreme: one elite could help train an entire clan rather than 1-2 at a time. Some players could/would eventually figure this stuff out on their own analysis, but others won't be very exposed to higher level games or will miss important subtleties. Its a damned sight easier and faster to learn in context if they can see the reasoning for the course of action and alternatives.

This also potentially helps less organized or unstable clans sort out rosters for CL: Who knows their stuff? Who's learning? Who's active? Who's a better teammate? Etc.

I like to think that making a more casual environment reduces the potential for drama too. :D

As long as nobody goes full try hard mode, this league will be fun and enjoyable.

I don't think we were going to use only 2 accounts anyway, I was just curious about the reasoning.

I edited my previous reply to make it more general as it did sound too much like I was talking directly to the people I was quoting, rather than in a more general sense. My apologies!

Thank you for the kind words Frozen Koala & Platinum.

I think M'Hunters can field a lineup too.
However, don't sign us up yet, I'll get back to you.

MH is participating.
I am the primary contact. Thanks.

I added M'Hunters now, with secondary contact to be determined. Correct me if wrong.



For the draw of which clans can determine templates: I will do this tomorrow when I'm online, which will probably be around noon European Time (morning in America). I will include all clans that have signed up by that time.
The draw will be done with the statistical program R (version 3.5.1). I will set the seed to 1 and then draw from the clans (which will be ordered alphabetically) and then who can decide 1v1 and 2v2.

Exact code (with real clans rather than placeholders):

set.seed(1)
sample(c("clan A","clan B","clan C","clan D","clan E","clan F","clan G","clan H","clan I"),6)
sample(c(rep("1v1",4),rep("2v2",2)))

Since I cannot foresee which clans will still sign up between now and tomorrow, I can hence not influence the draw.

Edited 4/27/2019 20:28:54

101st will play:
Primary contact: Arand0mPlayer https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=7710521647
Secondary contact: Derfellios https://www.warzone.com/Profile?p=6146168723

> set.seed(1)
> sample(c("{101st}","Apprentice","CORP","FCC","|GG|","Hawks","LuFredd","Masters","M'Hunters","ONE!","Outlaws","SNinja","Statisticians"),6)
[1] "FCC"        "|GG|"       "LuFredd"    "ONE!"       "Apprentice" "Masters"   
> sample(c(rep("1v1",4),rep("2v2",2)))
[1] "2v2" "1v1" "1v1" "1v1" "2v2" "1v1"

• 1v1 templates for cycle 1 can be chosen by:
  |GG|
  LuFredd
  ONE!
  Masters
  
• 2v2 templates for cycle 1 can be chosen by:
  FCC
  Apprentice
  
• I will send a PM to all contacts of these clans, you can propose your template (preferably through an example game) as a reply to that PM.

When will the actual playing start? The rules sound great and I really like the idea of a Clan Cup.

Avengers will join.
Primary contact: Sakata
Secondary contact: DanWL