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The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-08 03:54:17


RainB00ts
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Mainstream media journalists love doxxing children and bullying independent competitors off the internet.
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-08 16:01:00


Cipollino
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I did it! I created successful bait!
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-08 16:08:59

Blankman
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The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-08 19:10:36


Zoe
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Some people deserve to be doxxed lol. I know what you're referring to, and honestly, I couldn't care less if some 16 y/o Fascist loser is doxxed.
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-08 23:39:38


sound_of_silence
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^ lol ok and humans should all die, btw the so called liberal government of obama has also destroyed russia, also capitalism and imperialism is just one of the many sides of human desire, even with a so called different political system (but are all just jargons tbh) the outcome would be the same, so USSR and china did nothing that could be called a capitalist or imperialist? hardly. The problem is that building a system that is against human desires are impossible, and that is what you seem to be strive for.

Edited 6/8/2019 23:49:38
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-09 00:00:48


goodgame
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That's the problem, human desires. This world would be a million times better if it weren't for these desires.
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-09 01:34:07


Zoe
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What does Obama have to do with anything? And Imperialism often works directly against human desire, unless you believe humans don't desire shelter, food, or any sort of economic security. The USSR definitely couldn't be called Imperialist or Capitalist lmao, same for China under Mao. A better world *is* possible, and there are states that have/do exist that serve the common people rather than the insanely wealthy.
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-09 04:16:02


goodgame
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This has nothing to do with any system. A world with crappy economics and good people is better then a world with perfect economic equality but bad people, because with good people economy would balance out with rich giving to poor, and good economics would disappear with people going for the biggest piece of pie. It's all about what most people choose to do.

And I know human nature makes perfection impossible.

Edited 6/9/2019 04:16:29
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-09 06:46:57


Zoe
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So economics doesn't matter at all???? What kind of thinking is this lmao
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-09 13:03:01


sound_of_silence
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ye, but they desire their own shelter, food and economic security before thinking it about others, and I do believe a lot of states do concern the common people, especially if votes from common people are required to rose into power, but certainly not before the expense of the insanely powerful (and wealthy is very often a criteria I'll admit but without capitalism then other measures of power would took place), and usually you become power and wealthy once you rule a state right ?
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-09 16:04:59


Ox
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are sound of silence and goodgame alt accounts run by Zoe to make a commie look like a genius because that's what you guys are doing
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-09 16:26:49


goodgame
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I have my own account, separate person.

Economics can make a big difference, but not nearly as big a difference as how most people live their lives. The whole reason money existed in the first place is because most of the time people demand something in return for what they do give. In other words, a world with people that serve eachother, not just themselves, wouldn't have economics because people would just give what others want and need. And I don't know or care what the political system in such a world would be. It certainly wouldn't be an existing system, however, because they all involve economics. Forcing communism wouldn't help because of most people. Unless there is a perfect person to be in charge, dictatorship doesn't work either.
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-09 17:17:44


{Canidae} Kretoma 
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^ this +1
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-09 19:51:41


Zoe
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Well even if there's no money, it's still an economic system. Communism has no currency, classes, or state, so I think that's what you're talking about. I don't get this 'human nature' argument. Even if greed is part of human nature, which to some extent it definitely is, it's not like we haven't overcome human nature before in many instances. I'm sure rape is a natural impulse, but we as a society have decided to punish and discourage it because it's immoral. Same thing goes for murder. Society isn't in shambles because we've decided to act against human nature in many instances, society is in-fact better because we've outlawed and discouraged these immoral, but natural, acts.
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-10 00:42:12


Ox
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mmmmm pretty hobbesian for an ancom
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-10 01:04:11


Zoe
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Ancom? I'm a Marxist-Leninist lol.
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-10 16:53:07


sound_of_silence
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i live in china so my brain has commie cell
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-10 17:24:49


goodgame
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Of course forced communism is a bad idea. For one thing, in communism (like others) there is about always a person or small group of people with power over everyone else, and people with lots of power tend to exploit people with less power. Just look at what happened with Russia, China, and East Germany if you don't know what I mean. What would really be good is if people were immune to corruption (as in, if you never corrupt no matter how much power you have).
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-10 17:31:58


Zoe
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You're confusing Communism and Socialism. Good thing I advocate for both. Whatever you think about Russia, China, or East Germany, it's undeniable the majority of people who actually lived under it want it back. It's always funny when anti-Communists use the "Why don't you ask people who REALLY lived under Communism" argument, but lose their shit when they see actual polling data of these people.

Read these: https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2017/12/25/majority-of-russians-regret-soviet-collapse-poll-says-a60039
https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/homesick-for-a-dictatorship-majority-of-eastern-germans-feel-life-better-under-communism-a-634122.html

"Today, 20 years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, 57 percent, or an absolute majority, of eastern Germans defend the former East Germany."
The Nanny State is Evolving: 2019-06-10 18:28:32


goodgame
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The soviet source makes your point, but in your east germany source It seems more likely that the people were taking the offense to east germany as an offense to them. You might want to replace it with a different source, one that makes your point better.
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