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this is silly
looking for another group primarily for tournament play, hit me up (not gonna change my tag just yet since you can only do it like once a month)

im out.

you and dazed were the primary people in the formation of this clan. surely, you were in general agreement at that time and for a long while after. when dazed went awol the first and second time, we were leaderless. recently you have been not very active and for at least two weeks, completely inactive. you were booted from several games i was in, including a championship game of a tournament. other WMs have had the same deal. you havent even bothered with an excuse.

for you to then come back and radically change the direction of the clan is ridiculous. when you became inactive, i didnt know if you would be back. i took the role of leader and tried to emulate dazed's leadership of the clan. you however have kicked out players dazed himself brought in, without consulting anyone.

you have showed poor consistency, which is similarly important to quality, since your quality doesnt matter after you are booted. as the most consistent and active player of this clan, other than maybe szeweningen, i dont appreciate you not mentioning this to me in any way. if you have a problem with not being notified of new members, maybe you can understand my frustration at falker being included.Nobody other than you has ever heard of him.

i dont want to be in a clan with a capricious dictator of a leader, with not enough players to fill out tournament teams, who lets the entire site know of important decisions before he tells the previous leader.

i know the clan could have been shaped up a little, but my main problem was that so many of our players were inactive, or had left. i disagree with your decision to axe people, but you embarassing us like this is the worst thing.

bye.

like bigby, i also would want to join a similar group. there arent really any though, and i dont feel much like starting one at this point.

probably what will happen now is that ill be unlikely to join team tournaments, which was most of my games. so everyone, i expect my activity to decline from here. you might consider me to be in semi-retirement like szew.

wow i wasn't expecting that

the clan of warlighters does all sorts of in clan tourneys but your 'elite' status means you wouldn't join i guess

saying that, you left WM because of this so you may not feel like that

Warlighter's recruitment status is open (like REGL) so if you want to join just ask

i think there is room for variation in skill. and i would admire a clan with high standards for reliability with average standards for skill.

but since there are zero quality standards for {warlighters}, and i have never really played with any of them before, i might as well be on a team of unidentified strangers.

i have and will always (if at all) play for fun, not to improve my ability (although naturally, the more i play the better i'll become).

i would like to form a clan with anyone who is a fan of joy division, led zep, or galaxie 500. irrespective of quality.

why not join REGL, if you are looking for a well known clan with open membership?

heres what WM provided to me:

• players of similar ability to mine (sometimes greater, sometimes lesser)
• players who would, unless they had legitimate explanations, not get booted
• players who would respect their teammates, by listening to advice and agreeing when to surrender
• many opportunities to play with or against these players
• bonds between players as a result of playing with each other often
• increased opportunity to be invited to interesting games and tournaments (though theres rarely a tournament i dont get invited to)
• i have won a few tournaments thanks to partnering up with fellow players above my ability, like szew, mek blaze, dazed and red. its nice sometimes to be on teams which are so competitive, even if you are the weak link. conversely, its nice to see a slightly lesser player rise to or above your ability, thanks to you.
  
  not really sure regl meets any of these points, mostly because they have so many players, and partly because some of their players are quite far below my ability (though there are at least a couple better than me, and probably others on my level).
  
  
  
  i also add iggy pop/the stooges and lcd soundsystem to the above list of bands.

Just to clarify it to everyone is insinuing i "took" the leadership like a rude dictator, I had the idea to make it. I found a name. I found a tag. Dazed is the co-founder. I always meant it in a biarchy way.

Things was something like: we played 1v1, a very very good game, one of the best i had, so i said to him. Listen, i want to creat a clan, here is my idea. And bla bla bla. Always did things toghter, i always set up games for both, and the decision about who joins or not was meant to be bilateral. Then some new players appeared from nowhere. I was thinking first to some impostors, then he said: oh, i made them join, don't worry.

I wasn't so happy about that but he said that he will teach and grow them up. I said ok.

Regarding my boots probably you missed when i said it in different games, and also on the chat. But whatever. The championship game you were talking about had even Dazed if i'm not wrong, so it was lost anyway.

[REGL] John i think you could save us your irony.

In the end, i have to apologize about bigby because i just forgot him. He wasn't one of those which i didn't tryed out, so you can consider yourself part of that list even if i don't think you'd like no more.
But it's ok, everyone is important, no one is needful.

For the joy of many, i'll tell you more about the "leadership" which you keep cricizing. Then clan was always someway divided between west time zone (america) and central time zone (europe). Divided in the sense that it was quite difficult to play toghter real time and to know each other or pass the infromation in a fast way. Falker is known by almos all of the euro zone WMs and i just wonder how comes that you never saw him. When i recruited him Dazed was inactive so yes, i haven't to consult anyone.

But when i started to see people which told me: X made me join. VaporX said that it's ok if i join and so on, i just couldn't see it.

It's not about capricious, it's not a dictature and also it's not a public shame. There is nothing bad to just MANAGE the clan in the way i think it's better. The forum is the fastest tool i have to do that. I never said that who is not in that list it's a shit they should be shoted. I said that they are those i think should be officialy in WM. You want a WM school? You want a WM trainy team? It's ok. We can do that. I personally can't do the personal things i have to do, but i never thought at something like this with people which feel offended and like i putted them on the public pillory.

In the end, my action wasn't so effective on the american side because of the timezone (i always set games with the WM i know they are active because i saw them here and there in real time games) and because, the most important i think, which always made hard to keep all toghter, is a "clan tool", a "clan page" or something like that, where you can see every member, who's in, who's not, who joined recently, public messages to all the members, and that stuff.

Until then... it's just like this. I tried with: msn, skype, facebook, external chat on tiny chat, chat of WL (there is only you x and I), i think i'll give a try even with VENTRILLO like clans do on the FPS. More than that i just can't. I can't play with everyone, i can't ask everyone how's going, i can't inform everyone about who left and who joined recently. For that i'll start to update my profile.

no need to swear man


but emm, why not hand over leadership to nobody when you were off?

cos well, as you seem to say, the clan went up the swanny when you were gone for a while, so why didn't you stop this by promoting somebody temporarily until you came back?

As i see it, here the story is in a nutshell:

Red makes a clan (it was his idea you know), he organises it, gathers some trusty members, goes for a while, lots of friends of friends join, red comes back, red is confused by loads of unknown members, red gets rid of half the clan, lots are people are annoyed by red, well known clan member leaves the clan, red defends his actions

better then any of the soaps on telly i think

rereading x's account, i have to side with him

your mistake was to leave WM without a leader (or at least a coordinator)

could this be the end of WM?

i doubt it, but the clan has got a big dent in their rep

I repeat even to you. Trolling and irony is clearly disliked on this thread. "you know he did it"

I just clarified the sequence of the actions, i'm not like "hey look at me, i made it i made it".

And no, this is not the end of WM. Also, Warlight is not kinda game which you need a constant leader which plays everyday like an FPS could be. Me and Dazed leave for 2 weeks? Ok, no more recruits for those 2 weeks. Everybody can keep playing and everybody is ok.

I didn't leave the clan alone for 2 week because i thought it was funny. I also thought that i had an internet connection where i went, but it wasn't like that. So it was like when someone stolen Dazed's laptop and you say: hey dazed, you should have said to us that you would leave us alone.

well according to X, after you returned you didn't explain you disappearance

i guess the mystery has been solved now

and i think, after this charade, you do need a daily leader, to maintain the day to day affairs of the clan.

I feel my clan's leadership system works better in that respect, If i leave, the second in command takes over for example

ill make a few quick points, i dont want to deliberate on this, because as i am no longer a WM, i dont really care.

- I was thinking of a solution to many of our problems, which i would have enacted if it werent for this coup d'etat you seem to have pulled on dazed's run of things. that was to have a change in our tag, from WM to something else, maybe EX or MW or something like that. it would show up any players who were no longer closely involved in our clan.

like a snake shedding its skin.

you instead have attempted to cut off half the snake, and its a bloody mess.

- you and dazed may have been co-founders, but since he was far more active in the running of the clan, he was the de facto leader. since he first disappeared, i have been by far the most active in our clan. if the leader of the clan does nothing to help anyone, and is only leader because they were there first, that clan will quickly go down the sink, and disband. look at what eagleblast's reduced activity has done to REGL.

so i think i was more entitled to be the leader of the clan than you. not that i would be so dictatorial, i would listen to what everyone would have to say.

- the forum is absolutely the worst way to inform our members of changes. only a few of them post here, who knows how many read it, and there is no ability to edit posts.

timezones are irrelevent since most clan activity is on the multi-day level.

we are in dozens of games together. there is the in-game chat function, which i read before i take my turns. i even read the tournament chat every day. a [WM]-only tournament chat is a better place to communicate on.

TL;DR: i think that you are more interested in being the leader of a shitty clan than to be a high-standing member of a powerful clan. all your desicions have been made for your ego, not the good of the clan.

what does TL;DR mean?

I've never heard or read that phrase

TL;DR = Too long; didn't read. In essence the semi-polite way of saying "I didn't actually bother to read what you wrote so I'm only replying to what I guess you probably wrote". When used at the bottom of someone's post it means something like "if you don't want to read the whole post, here's the one-line abstract".

i knew influential members will leave

@x
What [WM] provided you.
This is REGL for as far I know:

1. REGL is a very big clan so we just can`t have players, who all have almost the same abilities.

2. This seems logical, but sometimes it happens because somebody just didn`t visit WarLight for 3 days. That isn`t a good reason but it happends.

3. Of course we respect each other and help and fight togheter. Agreeing to surrender sounds logical.

4. There are opportunities, like REGL tournaments/games and clan games. In tournaments we often try to be in the same team. The other games are mostly by invide if you need a clanmate.

5.There are bonds between players, but because we are with a lot of players, you probably won`t play with everybody. (exept during REGL games and tournaments)

6.If you played enough games, there is rarely a change you won`t be invited.

7.To be first in a tournament with help of your teammates, you need good teammates. As you know REGL allows every player to join, so there are a lot of players (including me), wich can`t help you very much. We also have enough players to help you so you just have to choose the right teammates. We are always competitive ;)

Sorry for my bad englisch and for REGL, I hope I didn`t make any mistakes but this is how I see it :)

Oh...interesting. And what would my ego earn from this?

your ego will earn the influential post of power clan leader
@x you should make that new clan split it and i don't think regl has leader anymore plus i don't think eagleblast leaving made a differance he was more like a figurehead a symbol of the and a bit of a promoter like arun.