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What does this mean?:

"I don't say they are the same person, but he IS an alt. I mean, c'mon.. "

The definition of an alt is two accounts by the same person.

What i mean is that i never said wohoo is DD, i only say he is an alt. Could be anyone for what i know.

I don't say they are the same person, but he IS an alt. I mean, c'mon..

never said that either, he could have had other accounts indeed.

As obvious as it is.. Deep inside, they knew.

please tell me how do you know, if it is obvious

Sweet :D

^^

Edited 8/26/2014 17:09:46

MoD could puppet his team mate right so if he cheated all points he played in should be stripped.

Do you really think MoD is a person that would puppet the other players.
I played with him myself and in 1 of our first 2 games we had like a 20 minute discussion about what would be the best to pick for our game and that was a time I still didn't know that desi actually was MoD.
I'm pretty sure that he isn't a player that would puppet at all. I asked at times about what he thought about certain moves and so but that was really the only times he actually could do some kind of puppeting and that you can't see as puppeting imo.

Not sure if MOD would puppet, but have played with him/desi enough to know he is vocal. He puts his two cents in. At the very least he might dictate the picks. I don't see him analyzing everyone's moves though. He hasn't done that with me, but he might with someone else, I don't know.

Even if he doesn't, a general rule must apply to all similar cases. In my opinion this means all points should be stripped because in some cases, puppeting will occur. But because this doesn't concern me, I'll not comment further.

I agree Arun, which is why we stripped all points. You can't take away half the points in a 2v2 and make assumptions about wins/losses based on a hypothetical replacement level player.

Widzisz alt is in my clan, every chat game, and can see everything we say or do. If need be I am sure Widzisz wouldnt mind being a 3rd party to show we were not aware he is an alt.



Wohoo has FINALLY confesse of being an alt. The main is no longer played and the league runners are currently analyzing and judging the authenticy.

turtle i know it's only a game, but you and DD make me angry! how dare he still claiming he's not DD? should i rewrite the proofs we got? don't you make any tryout games when you let someone in your clan? don't you make any tryout games when you let someone in your clan? don't you have a look at his stats at least once? I've only seen one account that was more obvious an alt: TWM.

Apparently there are rules against using alts, unless you never admit it. I repeat myself, but don't you see how ridiculous it is, to punish blitz while turtles get no punishment?

Edited 8/26/2014 21:31:02

MOD would puppet

As we have seen in several other forum threads -> "MoD sucks" <- so puppeting should not be our problem here :D

MOD, who said there is not punishment? Until you hear something from Miyagi/me/Apollo/JSA it can't be taken as anything official.

MoD: His stats were hidden until I had access to his account and even then his stats werent amazing.
Also I do have tryouts he went 1W and 1L..

Edited 8/26/2014 23:04:26

This season, we will work extra hard to keep alts from joining. To clan leaders, if a player looks like he might be an alt, we will inquire about it. As master of desaster says, it is not very fair to Blitz to lose all their points, while The Turtles go unpunished. But we have to go by that in the end, because the leader of Blitz knew who desi was before the clan league. The Turtle on the otherhand, shoudl have realized Woohoo was an alt, but I don't think he did. But like Chris says, we will dicuss this further.

Both of these instances should have been caught before the season began, and that is our goal in future seasons. Also, this season, we will have a vote on the format of the clan league and the settings with all the clans that stay in Group A, along with all the clans that won their division: WG, Apex, WM, GG, 20, Lynx, AHOL/Master. More information will come soon.

Edited 8/26/2014 23:19:43

um, I assume you mean alts with other accounts in the Clan League. If it's one account per season I don't see the problem :)

+1

In the future, make your recruits show you their stats. If someone hides their stats, theyre usually an alt.

I said it once and I will say it again: clan league should have a minimum game requirement. Something around 300. This alone would seriously reduce alt problems.

Edited 8/27/2014 06:24:08

@chris: getting banned from the next clan league is no real punishment. the only thing that sucks is when your clan loses points. maybe that's not right for many alts, but you can't punish blitz and turtles not. if they let participate an (obvious) alt, it's their fault. if you handle it like that, everybody can just participate with an alt while the clan leaders don't admit anything. don't ask don't tell. and believe me, there are enough alt accounts that could easily participate on the clan league without looking suspicious.

MoD take it easy

MOD, who said there is not punishment? Until you hear something from Miyagi/me/Apollo/JSA it can't be taken as anything official.

It took a while before they announced a punishment for Blitz aswell so wait for the verdict.

the second part was an reaction for what JSA said. that sounds pretty concrete.

Edited 8/27/2014 08:35:16