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Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 10:07:32


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I like what is happening here right now..

so many people bashed the obviously scandalic actions of a player last season, yet so many copycats have arised :D haha.

I'd say - punish them, punish them all

Stone
stone
stone

bang

in ya face :D

a pity we did not find any alt actions in WG nor apex.. but we will! and we will exterminate them! we'll seek'n'destroy! :D

haha

this is hilarious, and pathetic, and sad.. it got so much out of hand.. :/
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 10:07:41


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i am more for the other side don't ban anyone
i really don't think there should be a rule for not playing for more than one clan if it is not in the same group
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 10:34:46


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i would just say you can play 4 tournaments at most in total as long as the clans you are playing for are in different groups so there is no way you play against the other clan you are in as well
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 10:42:42


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I don't mind that idea but people would still take advantage of it. I believe warlight is a meeting ground for sociopaths, if I'm remembering correctly.
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 11:31:47


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This is why i hate alts that are not declared from the start. Nothing but trouble. Some people are noble with theirs, most seem not to be.

I think waakanari has a valid idea. Should the rule be changed to no more than 4 games per person, regardless of account, so long as they are not on two clans in the same division? It does not effect the current issue of Woohoo, but might make things better in the next league.
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 11:56:06

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I love you Pulsey, I really do.
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 12:19:25


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turtle - "Cmon, do you really think someone make 2 different personalities when he starts playing warlight?"

These were not his first accounts. Orange#elite! was an older account of his. He retired a lng time ago, gave login information to another players, and when he got back after his break from warlight, the login information was no longer valid, so he created at least two accounts - Orange, and Wohoo.

"and when he got back after his break from warlight, the login information was no longer valid, so he created at least two accounts"

this can not even be true if you look at the dates when the accounts are made. I had make a few account when i started playing warlight. when i came back too warlight i could not log in my 1e account and use this account. I probably told gruffone or beelzebub my pass when we where in #Elite!, but i didn't remember i had given my pass.

later i did get my account back by resetting my password.

The wohoo and goldheadshot accounts are not mine and has nothing to do in this too.
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Wohoo/Orange/DD/beardsomething - If you were brothers, this would had been your line of defence from the very beginning, while you were very confused, denied without telling anything, changing your statements. This is ridiculous. You acted guilty and guilty i find you. No "typing" test can change that, as you could simply give your login to a real-life friend, just for the sake of doing the typing test.
I don't believe a word you say, and if Wohoo does not get punished, I will convince my cousin to start playing Warlight. As we are close family, he will probably be invited to WM. I will give him a few tips here and there obviously, but he will be playing his games, and i will be playing mine. I am serious.


why is it strange we did not want people to know he is my brother? we did not expect people to believe that and didn't want a investigation so we naturally did not announce it.
and i agree that "No "typing" test can change that" but we talked together even before we were involved into any clan and only played real time game, that should be evidence enough.

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JSA - "I have many games with and against my brother. I said he was my brother back in the old [P] days before alts were even a big thing (pretty much nonexistent)."

This is a blatant lie at least in the last part - alts were very existent back then. Not to today's extent, but VERY existent and you know it. We all suspected you two being the same person, and some still do today

JSA - "Unlike Woohoo, we have played some games against each other, which greatly increases our likelihood of being different people."

In other words - you believe the fact that you played a few games against each other made you seem more likely to be different people. Nice alibi. Not very legit - believing in it is purely subjective.

JSA - "GG just doesn't look like a lot of fun to me, and I've been in WG and know it is fun. So why would I pick GG over WG if I were Robin Hood?"

Me, gnuffone, and a couple of others have put alts in different clans to gather information about them.. There are reasons, and there were benefits from such actions.

JSA - "So yeah, I think that the evidence strongly points to Robin Hood actually being my brother. "

No. It does not. However - one argument stands valid - being brothers was your statement from the very first time somebody openly accused you to be alt of khalid or robin-hood to begin with, you never acted shady with it like Wohoo has. This and only this makes you look sincere and Wohoo guilty as funk. However there are a lot of arguments that double your guilt as well. Don't want to judge, as i no longer care.


thx to Pulsey's we no know that "being brothers was your statement from the very first time somebody openly accused you to be alt of khalid or robin-hood to begin with" is not true.
And like i just did say, it is not taht strange we did not want people to know he is my brother. we did not expect people to believe that and didn't want a investigation so we naturally did not announce it.

It looks to me only JSA is making things up, is giving shity explanations and is lying, if they where brothers he would not do that.

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Apollo - Yes I did. I can't imagine such a fucked up person? who would talk to themselves in team chat. Just to make it look like they are brothers. Why would you do that

I did. Just for fun. I even gave my alts different tempers if not personality profiles.. Call that fucked-up, call that "psychopathic" or schisophrenic, i call it role-playing.


that you think it is more believable that i have some fucked up split personality rather then see the obvious that we are brothers makes me wonder if you even care about the truth. It is starting to look like some people dont care if we are alts or brothers, but just want to fuck us.
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 12:26:34


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And you claimed to be a genius first xD prove that you got 2 brothers and you would be right in at least 1 point. I bet you are a single child. Show someone of the league runners their facebook profiles (everybody has facebook don't tell me they haven't) and we know that you aren't lying in all points.
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 12:36:13


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also next to proof i have that we type in the same chats, i also have proof we both speak:

In this game:
http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?GameID=2408179
you can see that a dutch player where we played a few games with asked us to start a clan on 2012/03/18, and my brother asked him to download teamspeak(he used that a lot for a game called crossfire, i did not use it much/played that game not much.)

In the next game you can read in the teamchat that he can hear us both.(but my sound was not working somehow, so i could not hear them):


Edited 9/12/2014 12:36:28
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 12:45:46


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Yes i have facebook. But if i have some fucked up split personality then i would also create more then one facebook account right? it would be strange someone like that would only do that in a game.
Also i don't like to add anyone on the league runners as my friend on facebook, they seem really some fucked up people.
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 13:38:47


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Apollo - Yes I did. I can't imagine such a fucked up person? who would talk to themselves in team chat. Just to make it look like they are brothers. Why would you do that

I did. Just for fun. I even gave my alts different tempers if not personality profiles.. Call that fucked-up, call that "psychopathic" or schisophrenic, i call it role-playing.

Fair enough, not me. This is all getting beyond ridiculous. I don't know about you guys, but my vote is no and I'm out...bye.

Edited 9/12/2014 13:39:11
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 13:43:26


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Excuses. Pick one of the league runners you trust. You don't have to add him. Just show him your and your brothers facebook account so he got a proof you got brothers.

I don't think you have a split up personality. Your need for admiration is just too big. That's also the reason why you gave experienced players hints what they could've done better after they lost. For some reason you want everyone to think you're a good player (reason for the thread where you challenged good players on wohoo).

Every "proof" you gave so far is so easy to fake and needs no time. better proof us with the facebook profiles that you wasn't lying about having brothers. I don't want to see your face so just pm it one of the league runners so he can check and no information of you is in the forum
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 14:11:01


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Dude, if you are going to post evidence, at least provide an English translation. I don't speak Dutch.


From Orange:
"why is it strange we did not want people to know he is my brother? we did not expect people to believe that and didn't want a investigation so we naturally did not announce it.
and i agree that "No "typing" test can change that" but we talked together even before we were involved into any clan and only played real time game, that should be evidence enough."

This doesn't make sense to me. Why would anyone care if you and your 'brother' were public from the start? If my brother started playing (he was big into these types of games, so it would not surprise me if he did), why would I care if people knew? There is no downside to that. I think the timing of this is completely fishy for a reason.

Also, another fishy thing...I looked at all those games Woohoo posted. Goldheadshot does about %90 of the talking in public chat. Why none from Orange? That suggests you are the same person. Also, in some games you both got booted, another probable alt sign. Even if you were two brothers in the same house, it is unlikely that two people would forget about a game and get booted. One would remember I hope.
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 14:18:48


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As far as JSA and his brother, I think it is sad that he denied he knew him in that post provided. I have not played with/against Khalid enough to know if that is JSA or not. I do believe that JSA's brother plays/played and was Unknown Ranger/King Tut. I played enough with both of them to see the differences there. Like I said I don't know enough about Khalid to make the same judgement.

If someone wants to prove they are the same, I would love to see that evidence. But right now I believe they are not.
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 14:34:01


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"turtle- "Cmon, do you really think someone make 2 different personalities when he starts playing warlight?""

I didn't say that Fridge.
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 14:36:28


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@ChrisCMU
"i would just say you can play 4 tournaments at most in total as long as the clans you are playing for are in different groups so there is no way you play against the other clan you are in as well" ~Wakanari

This is what I've been saying for ages. That I wanted to play The Turtle in 2 tournaments and Croagunk88 in 2 tournaments....... If this suggestion were to come into effect it wouldn't matter if Wohoo is DD/Organe because Orange/DD is in 1 tournament while Wohoo is in 2 tournaments so that is only 3/4 tournaments assuming that it is one person not 2 persons.

Edited 9/12/2014 14:37:53
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 14:43:56


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Seriously someone make a fucking decision and let's move on.
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 14:55:43


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Well, it would matter Turtle because that rule was not in place this season.

My vote is that DD/Woohoo are suspended for next season. I think it is much more likely that they are alts than not, and the early deception takes away any benefit of the doubt).

I also think the committee needs to further discuss the rules and consider the total game limit option, regardless of clan.
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 15:23:38


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Seriously someone make a fucking decision and let's move on.

YES!
Clan League #5: 2014-09-12 15:51:31


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So.... Wohoo, Dutch Desire/Orange, and Desi/MoD are all suspended for next season? Are there other punishments for Icelandic Turtles and |GG|? What are the templates for next season?
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