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Multi Attack inside your land.: 2020-06-20 04:05:34

Georg Friedrich Ferdinand, Prinz von Preußen
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Would it be possible to make multi attack to have multi transfer also? I find that it gets difficult to not get yourself trapped in your own territory.
Multi Attack inside your land.: 2020-06-20 04:16:03


The Voynich Manuscript
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it was possible to multi-transfer in the early days of multi-attack but was removed because there were issues, for example you only need one army to make an infinity if delay moves so it can be very boring to spend a lot of your precious time issuing thousands of delay orders just because you have to out-delay your opponent.
Multi Attack inside your land.: 2020-06-20 04:26:23


krinid 
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The problem with transferring inside your territory is that regular 'multiattack' is unlimited. Because it's unlimited, this would allow you move anywhere on the map within a single turn as long as you have a string of territories connecting them.

HOWEVER ... unlimited multiattack in general suffers from the same problem imho. As long as you have enough armies to kill everything in your way, you can still travel anywhere on the map (as long as you don't cross your own already owned territory). And if you're not using '1 must stand', then this makes it worse if there are lots of 0 neutrals or enemy territories with 0 units - you can zip across the map with 1 unit.

The answer to both? Limited Multiattack (LMA) and Limited Multitransfer (LMT).

A mod for LMA already exists. But LMT doesn't. It's on my to make, just need the time to go do it. But it's a mod, so without membership, you'll still have to wait for someone to make a game using it and publish it for non-members (which can only be done once per week).
Multi Attack inside your land.: 2020-06-20 04:44:32


The Voynich Manuscript
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unlimited multi-attack in general suffers from the same problem imho

The answer to both? Limited Multi-attack (LMA) and Limited Multi-transfer (LMT)

imo it's the template's fault, not the fact that it's unlimited. if it's a problem on your template you can enable stand guard, LD, increase neutrals, etc. and you don't need a mod that limits multi-transfer when it's impossible by default. I believe the problem is solvable without mods.
Multi Attack inside your land.: 2020-06-20 04:48:12


krinid 
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The problem we're addressing here is that you can move across the map in a single turn with a big stack through enemy territory, but can't do the same through your own territory.

It doesn't make sense. Fighting through enemy territory gives the ability to keep on moving, but getting no resistance in your own territory stops progress. Logically doesn't make sense. Should be the reverse, right? Easy to move through already conquered space.

That's the problem we're talking about here.
Multi Attack inside your land.: 2020-06-21 03:43:33

Georg Friedrich Ferdinand, Prinz von Preußen
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Ok, so could a separate feature of multi transfer be made? MA or MT could be used, but not both. MT would help when you have all those troops inside your territory doing nothing.
Multi Attack inside your land.: 2020-06-23 19:59:59


krinid 
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That makes a lot of sense to control them independently.

One of the big issues with LMA as it is now ... is that moving from territory X that you own to territory Y that you also own stops all movement of units from both X and Y, even if you haven't moved any from Y yet.

Poor implementation.

LMA and LMT FTW!
Multi Attack inside your land.: 2020-06-29 05:16:28

Georg Friedrich Ferdinand, Prinz von Preußen
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I don't understand.
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