I would love it if Fizzer would grow a pair and make it official.

This "realtime?"-Maquis did surrender all his games on 25th April. The same day MoD became 2nd. The next day MoD fell back to 3rd, though not to his own shortcoming, but because his rating dropped for 21 points, because his past victories were rated less. Cui bono.

I would say, unless Red comes here and confirms officially that he handled that alt of Gnuffone and gives a sound reason to why leaving the ladder that day, I protest against this result. Entering seasonal ladder with more than one account is definitely cheating.

Gnuffone would have known this effect to MoD's rating very exactly. He would have known that trying the best for the Maquis would give competition to his better positioned alt by raising MoD's rating. Very few people would have had that in them to continue fighting with that 2nd alt. But those people would have entered the ladder with only one account anyways.

I heard that Fizzer monitors the IP addresses. He could tell us if the Maquis and Killua were handled by different addresses.

Edited 5/31/2014 11:10:43

Your last paragraph would solve every doubt we have. But again - not only surrendering counts but mostly who played all the previous turns.

I like when Gnuff gets blamed for my alt :p

Killua should join Maximus Trollitus

Monitoring IP addresses only works if Gnuff isn't using TOR or some other anonymizing service...

if using tor, you would see different ips every other day.. so it's easy to tell

That sucks MOD but congrats on a good season.
I have reported Killua Zaoldyeck about a month and a half ago explaining that he is using 2 accounts and asked to check if the IP address of Killua Zaoldyeck and Marquis de Vauban are the same.
of course I did this to try and get a free win not for the purity of the ladder so either my complaint was ignored or Marquis de Vauban and Killua Zaoldyeck don't have the same IP address.

1. Anonymous and gnuffone were never close friends. It seems weird that anonymous would lie for Gnuffone.

Yet we've seen Fridge often defend this cheater to the death on the forums.


All three accounts have been reported multiple times. It is Fizzer's responsibility to act here. He needs to tell us whether or not Gnuffone is guilty. He needs to explain the reasoning behind whatever decision he makes (which so far, seems to be nothing in order to protect a regular donor).

Edited 6/1/2014 14:02:08

Gnuffone is fizzers main sponser. Thats the reason why nothing will happen. From what i have heard of he has many membershipaccounts. I guess if someone else did he would have acted, i this case he wont.

Would be nice to get some ruling from Fizzer. Every random name i see reach the top (like now zacateon), i assume is gnuff. I am wrong probably, but without a definite answer i simply believe he is after some sort of personal goal of getting a ton of accounts to #1 so he can do some big reveal later

Zacatron is definitely not Gnuffone. Zacatron plays bad. He's stalling 3 games and was stalling against Verzeher until Verzeher got booted. Watch the games and he does not look good. Not Gnuffone; i personally doubt he is an alt.

I've played over 100 games total with Gnuffone on warlight and he is much better than Zacatron. Zacatron deserves a 1900-2000 rating, not a 2200+ rating. Maybe even worse than 1900-2000.

Edited 6/1/2014 20:28:33

Arun stop acting stupid:

Yet we've seen Fridge often defend this cheater to the death on the forums.

I don't defend him. I am only trying to be a voice of reason here. nothing IRL is ever black or white, and more often than not there are coincidences which in my opinion don't give anybody the right to ostracize people like this. Unless somebody who has access to server logs checks it, it's your premonition againt former cheater's word. looks like you guys are right, but if it's not, you are stoning an innocent person.

It is Fizzer's responsibility to act here. He needs to tell us whether or not Gnuffone is guilty. He needs to explain the reasoning behind whatever decision he makes.

You are being extremely ignorant here.
1) there is NO responsibility. If Fizzer feels like it, he will shut this site down and it's nothing of your business. He did not sign any contract with anybody saying he WILL act if somebody does this or that. He said however he RESERVES the right to act should you break any. Big difference.
2) He does not NEED to tell you shit. It's you, and me, and a couple others who would LIKE to know the truth. But nobody is obliged to tell anything.
3) last but not least - take a hammer or any other hard object and smash it on your forehead. NOBODY, especially Fizzer who is the OWNER of this site has to EXPLAIN himself to a random kid on the internet. Deal with it.

Once again - I'm not defending any person. Gnuffone has let me down. But i will defend reason from premonition taking it over.

@JSA, i did not watch games. My point was every time i see an unknown i assume it is him now

Sorry Fridge but I'm with Arun on this one. You're sure playing the role of cheater apologist well... :/

Fridge you can't expect me to swallow that. Twice now, you've defended Gnuffone, once when it was clear he'd cheated, and once when he has near definitely cheated again.

The voice of reason

Why aren't you reasonable then? All a voice of reason would say is to wait for proof. Thry would otherwise be neutral, clearly not your standing.

Fizzer should reply, if not publically than as a reply to the people who have reported him. Should is very different to having a legal responsibility. You should not cheat here, though it is not against the law to be an unfair player.

Edited 6/2/2014 06:26:52

Ok then! Screw Gnuffone! He is a stinky cheat and a immature ranking whore! Let's all unite in the quest for a ban! I don't care if it was Red who was playing the other account or not. Gnuffone shall pay for MoD not getting a badge! Let the italiano petito gnuffino burn in hell!

and seriously. I may be exaggerating a bit when i try to get to you, but i've been under false accusations far to many times myself, and I believe it's even easier to miss the truth, while the bashed guy (gnu) has been proven to have been a bad apple before. I don't know if he's done the things you assume he has, but I would prefer Fizzer to check it before we completely ostracize the guy. After all we can only presume. Fizz is most likely the only person able to check what has really happened.

Arun: "Twice now, you've defended Gnuffone, once when it was clear he'd cheated, and once when he has near definitely cheated again."
"Why aren't you reasonable then? All a voice of reason would say is to wait for proof. Thry would otherwise be neutral, clearly not your standing."

And what else am I saying? At no point i said he was innocent. All I'm saying is exactly that - we should wait for proof. That's all.

As for Fizzer - I've told what i feel about it. It's nice to have feedback on your report, but the reporting feature is for Fizzer, not you. It's not like he should reply. Wild guess, but i believe it would be much to time consuming if he had to reply to every petty report people pile him up with..

Edit: actually if you read my posts again, i literally say I think you are most likely right, not the contrary.

Edited 6/2/2014 06:39:30

Would you be this keen to post in defence of another player facing the same accusations? Playing devils advocate isnt actually helping here fridge, so stop.

NiL and you know it, Piggy...