We're not, he's just trolling finished games.

i now start the {RSP}69's rankings!!!
the clans of players who posted are forced to join and i'll just put up the scores. ( i alone know how to calculate these scores and i'm not going to tell anyone)

here you go
RSP-3849284927492795472934793275923795329755 points
Ahol- 69 points
Apex- 30 points
WM- 27 points
WG-23 points
Juggernaut- 22 points
Cpu- 20 points
101st- 10 points
Warlighters- -5 points

Thank you everyone!

ok, i did the work for you, arun. no need to post now :)

When clan events finish, I update.

1) CPU - 1011
2) Warlighters - 1011
3) Br - 510
4) Zen-D - 510

There is now a page for this system on the Clans Wiki.

http://theunofficialwarlightclans.wikia.com/wiki/WCRS

With all due respect Arun, but in my opinion this thing you call the wcrs (as boycotted by most clans FOR A REASON) should never be posted on the unofficial warlight clans wiki, which at least tries to objectively cover all the topics around warlight clans..

as you wrote on the wiki:

The WarLight Clan Ranking System is an unofficial rank generator for WarLight clans designed to reward clans which are not only succesful, but active. It is a slow process, as clan competitions are not overly frequent. After the second clan league finishes, the WCRS will start giving a more accurate representation of exactly how 'good' WarLight clans are, in terms of skill and involvement.

As it was said many times, which you still seem not to understand this by NO means ranks the clans' skills. And by the way "designed to reward clans which are not only succesful, but active" practically borders with being an insult to the clans like apex or WM, which are definitely active, and by far more succesful in gameplay to the clans represented in the wcrs..

What I do strongly believe you should do is delete this from the wiki, and forget about it at all, as it is extremely foolish system which does NOT evaluate any skill or involvement whatsoever.

If it's to painful, or you just don't know how to do it, then at least for truths sake write in the wiki, in plain english that MOST OF THE CLANS WIDELY CONSIDERED BEING MOST SUCCESSFUL, REFUSED TO BE INCLUDED IN THIS BECAUSE THEY THINK YOUR RANKING SYSTEM IS BADLY DESIGNED AND DOES NOT PROPERLY RANK ANYTHING.

And what i would really like to see you doing in addition to the above:
Make a interclan ladder or something based on the new awesome CLOT feature and let it rank whoever you like for you instead of making up this extremely stupid system by which you are discrediting yourself and destroying the last bits of dignity you have left here on this site.

best wishes,
the cold guy

^ +1

I disagree with you Fridge. Yes WM are active, but nowhere near as active (in inter-clan terms) as say, Br. By making a system that rewards more active clans, and no, you cannot seriously dispute that more active clans will be rewarded, I get a more rounded view of clans as a whole. This thing is unofficial-ignore it if you despise it so much. I will continue on with it because it WILL do what I said it would.

If you are looking for a ranking system that only measures clan skill, JSA's Clan League is perfect for you. Other great thing may also be made with the CLOT SYSTEM.

I DO NOT want to make a clan ladder based on skill alone-there are enough of them at the moment anyway. I think it is interesting to see which clan is 'best' in terms of skill and activity. I believe that my system gives a more rounded view of exactly which clan is best to be a part of, if you are looking for an active clan that does reasonably well (which is what most do look for).

All serious clan ranking systems will get a place on the clans wiki, as long as they are not biased. The clan league has a place there.

Exactly what is stupid about my system? It does everything I said it would, and is simple to use and understand.

Seriously Arun - you think we should be more involved in interclan slaught.. ehhmm i mean activities? :) I understand you don't know how it feels like, but believe me - playing to many uncompetitive games with newbie enemies is just no fun (or in other words "utter waste of time"), so for interclan tournaments we focus on quality not quantity - does it make us* less active? Of course not.

Why do you limit the "clan activity" to inter clan duels or bragging who is better, when as you already pointed out, there is an inter-clan league that compares clans in many gametypes..? (lacks FFAs and teamFFAs, but with clot that can be added i guess..)
What would be the point of us joining other interclan stuff?
To prove our clans are more skilled? That was already proven in the league..
To train new gameplay strategies? We do it literally every day with our inclan and open activities..
To be more active in your flawless system? seriously? Why should we be more active in matches which outcome is inevitable even before the game starts? to appear more active in your statistics? come on..

let's face it - NO ONE looks for reasonably well doing active clan. People want to team up with other people with similar proficiency in the game, or similar interests etc. In the first case - people want to join clans on their level of gameplay or slightly above, so that they could improve. In the second case - there are clans like FBG or {rp} bringing together people of similar interests.. Your artificial attempt to show off how active warlighters' clan is obvious - you just have nothing more to offer than a mere slogan that you are tied for the most active clan in your own (lol) ranking.

What is stupid about your system? Come on, just read all the conversations we had covering its flaws once again and with a little luck your brain will light the damn bulb..

In the end let's just agree to disagree, but please do include the sentence i have dictated you, since without it your great ranking's site on the wiki is BIASED a lot. (however you should be aware that your perfect system IS biased a lot since only 4 clans are rated - not that i find your great system any serious either, but no point in fighting with your famous stubborn ego over this i guess).

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* by "us" I mean clans that declined your great wcrs.

Fridge: I totally agree with your point that Arun's system is flawed and not an accurate representation of the active clans. But ffs, if you don't want to be a part of it just ignore it, no need to flame the guy to death. You already made your case, if he wants to act on it and change the description he will. Or maybe the other participating clans will put more pressure on him to "fix" that plainly leave the "system". This back and forth messaging is just throwing mud around.

Arun: Why don't you just change the description to state that your system is trying to measure ranking between the following participating clans "this", "that", "theother"? If some folks don't want to participate it's their option, focus on serving the ones who do want to be involved.

*or plainly

ps: WHY U NO WANT ME PLAY FORUM GAME? :(

Fridge: i thought Trollusa was in charge of that. sorries, my bad!

Can't he just remove successful from the description? If you want to rank most active clans, fine, but get quality statements out of there because this doesn't factor them accordingly. You have in the wiki "good" and "skill" as well.

I'm not sure how this even ranks activity. I've never even heard of BR until it was mentioned here. Do they have a tag? I play in tons of games with clan people and I've never seen it.

Not to mention you don't even list the competitions you are basing this on. If you are going to keep doing this highly flawed system, you should at least be transparent and provide a list of events you scored on there. You should also put rules in there as to what qualifies as a clan event. I know I am in events you are in, yet I don't see WG with any points (and no I am not going to provide you with information either, which is the point many of us tried to make about the flaws in this).

Do events only get scored when completed, or are participation points counted as soon as it starts?

I think it is a waste of time, but clearly some do not. That is fine, we are all entitled to our opinions. But if you are going to put in the time to upkeep this you should at least define everything on there.

It doesn't even say when it started scoring (what is the cutoff?). It also doesn't say whether individuals or only clan teams count.

Seriously, you at least need to define everything and not just throw out arbitrary numbers. RSP 69 basically posted the same thing :)

You should....provide a list of events you scored on there

That's a good idea, and one I will use. Thanks Chris!

Do events only get scored when completed, or are participation points counted as soon as it starts?

Events get scored after completion.

I know I am in events you are in

Only event that fits the description is the Clan League :)

I think the way I will show which events have been used is by adding a category page on the Clans wiki called: Inter Clan Events used in the WCRS.

Do they [Br] have a tag?

Yes: [Br]name (all clan tags can be seen on Clan Wiki home page)

You should also put rules in there as to what qualifies as a clan event.

It's really quite simple-any event involving more than one clan and not involving non clan parties.

Well, you don't have that description posted, so nobody would know. You should at least post that here.

I am seriously just trying to be helpful, because you are going to do this anyway.

If it is a mixed team, like this event (which you are in):

http://warlight.net/MultiPlayer?TournamentID=3424

...then you should divide whatever points among those players even though they are not in the same clan.

Also, somehow I missed the third page...unfortunate. the [WM] guys made my sides hurt.

He should have just said WM completed 100 challenges in the last week that they won and let Arun give you 100,000+ points.